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Article #16281Re: Gisse puts foot in mouth, and perhaps elsewhere (was Re: Pound Rebka
From: Eric Gisse
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:55
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:55
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On Feb 1, 12:55 pm, nonsense <nonse...@unsettled.com> wrote: > Eric Gisse wrote: > > On Feb 1, 9:08 am, nonsense <nonse...@unsettled.com> wrote: > > >>Eric Gisse wrote: > > >>>On Jan 31, 2:14 pm, "Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > >>deep snip > > >>>>Richard Dawkins, author of "Root of all evil" made the claim that > >>>>militant faith is again on the march despite the progress of > >>>>science. Perhaps that wouldn't be the case if science was raised > >>>>above the sea of indoctrinated realities, to take its rightful > >>>>place in the world as the champion of truth. > > >>>It only appears as "militant faith" to someone who is unwilling and > >>>unable to understand the many explanations, links, and books > >>>referenced to him. > > >>Mr. Gisse: > > >>You need to stop posting for a while. You're so immersed > >>in what you think you're trying to achieve that you've > >>forgotten to read what your correspondent is writing, > >>or even worse, ignoring it altogether. Hint: seeing > >>everything through a haze of red is a *bad thing*. > > >>Let's talk about Dawkins for just a moment. > > >>Here's the opening paragraph to the Wikipedia article > >>about him: > > >>"Clinton Richard Dawkins (born March 26, 1941) is a > >>British ethologist, evolutionary biologist and popular > >>science writer who holds the Charles Simonyi Chair for > >>the Public Understanding of Science at the University > >>of Oxford.[1]" > > >>I hope there's no need to beat up on you any more > >>for this sort of thing. > > > I'm reasonably sure that Dawkins was talking about creationists, who > > tend to make the same arguments about evolution that folks on here use > > against modern physics. The "militant faith" likely refers to those > > same people - but since there is absolutely no context, I can't be > > sure. > > > I don't even see why you felt you had to reply. > > Figgers. You're still seeing red. > > No matter what Keon's science is or isn't, read the > paragraph he wrote. You might not see yourself in it, > but I sure do, and I'm not arguing the science at all, > but the precise aspects he's hit on. I did read the paragraph he wrote, and found it amusing given his long- standing resistance to conventional explanations through multiple paths. Is someone a pioneer because they refuse to understand, or just an idiot? If you don't want to argue science, that's fine. Just don't expect me to play ball with you on it. > > Go out of doors. Spend the weekend interfacing with > friendly human beings. One view of the universe is all > numbers. You need to spend time looking at things > directly for a bit. The sun really doesn't rise or set > around how right you are and how wrong he is on any > particular issue. > > And when you've done some R&R come back and explain > to me how time has behaved identically everywhere > since the first few moments after the initiation > of the big bang. > > But please go take the cure first. > > Thanks.
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