Re: Pound Rebka

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From: Eric Gisse
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:36

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On Jan 7, 12:02 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
> On Jan 6, 10:50 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote:
>
>
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> > On Jan 6, 2:00 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
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> > > On Jan 6, 12:01 am, Dono <sa...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > > > On Jan 5, 1:26 pm, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
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> > > > > Let Nu0 the observed frequency at the bottom.
> > > > > Assuming that m = hNu / c^2 represents the
> > > > > photon's mass corresponding to the frequency Nu,
>
> > > > Bad assumption, Marcel. Doesn't apply to the photon.
> > > > It is nice seeing trying mainstream physics instead of your standard
> > > > fare of pure crackpottery.
>
> > > The proof of the pudding is in the eating:
> > > With that assumption, one straightforwardly gets
>
> > > E0 = E + mgd
> > >      = hNu +  (hNu / c^2) * gd
> > >      = hNu (1 + gd/c^2)
> > >      = E (1 + gd/c^2)
>
> > > This cannot be a mere coincidence.
>
> > It's not coincidence, light energy,
> > like all energy is subject to the
> > Conservation of Energy, and is a
> > cornerstone of General Relativity.
>
> > > Marcel Luttgens
>
> > Good work, regards
> > Ken S. Tucker
>
> Thank you.
>
> I have added to my demonstration a justification of
> the assumption that the mass m of a photon can be
> expressed by the relation m = E / c^2 = hNu / c^2:

Wrong by many orders of magnitude.

http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf

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>
> Clearly, the above interpretation of the result of the
> Pound & Rebka experiment doesn't vindicate
> the general relativity prediction that clocks should run
> at different rates at different places in a gravitational field.

Idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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