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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:57:44 GMT, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

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>"John C. Polasek" <jpolasek@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:atutn3l8ceqbc38v4v6on8jeumsl2di3fc@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:42:29 GMT, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:30d40ddf-3af0-4765-9287-ca83ba2b25a5@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>Mitch Raemsch aka BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Light is blueshifted on its way into gravity.
>>>Light is redshifted on its way out.
>>>>
>>>Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>>Sometimes even Einsteinians explain this correctly:
>>>< http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp > ...
>>>...  since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
>>>Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
>>>Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
>>>gravitational potential. One can find his calculation in his paper.
>>>The result is c'= c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational
>>>potential relative to the point where the measurement is
>>>taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
>>>REDSHIFT FACTOR."
>>>>
>>>Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>>Pound and Rebka found experimentally that the GRAVITATIONAL
>>>REDSHIFT obeys the equation f'= f(1+V/c^2), which is consistent
>>>with Einstein's 1911 equation c'= c(1+V/c^2) and the textbook
>>>formula:   ---  frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength)
>>>>>
>>>"Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>In 1960, using the Mossbauer effect, Pound and Rebka succeeded
>>>in measuring the extremely small change (only about 1 part in 4e+14)
>>>of frequency of the ** y-rays ** emitted by a sample of radioactive iron
>>>when it was moved from the bottom of the tower to the top of a tower
>>>74 feet high. The observed frequency change agreed with the
>>>relativity prediction within 5%."
>>>According to your equation  f'= f(1+V/c^2)
>>>V(a) and V(b) for the tower base and tower top is:
>>>G = 6.67E-11
>>>M = 5.97E+24
>>>ra = 6378000   Tower base radii
>>>rb = 6378023   Tower top radii (+23 meters (74 feet) high)
>>>Va = G * M / ra ^ 2  = 9.7888378648735791276869837432118
>>>Vb = G * M / rb ^ 2  = 9.7887672652959533370556770582427
>>>>
>>>[Eric Gisse]
>>>Potential energy is GM/r, idiot. You wrote down force.
>>>[snip remaining]
>>>>
>>>[hanson]
>>>It is not very clear what Potential *energy* Eric is talking about
>>>and for that matter what force. When I look at Eric's equation of
>>>Potential energy = GM/r where presumably G = L^3*M^-1*T^-2
>>>then Eric's Potential energy becomes a phenomenon, an event,
>>>with the dimension of L^2/T^2, a squared velocity, which is as
>>>mysterious as are  Keon's "y-rays"... but both of which appear
>>>to produce a mutual benefit for the mysterious term of "idiot".
>>>Thanks for the laughs, guys... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>>>
>[John C. Polasek]
>> I'll just add this so you don't make such an ass of yourself.
>> The potential energy MG/4 is equal to V^2/2 terminal velocity if
>> dropped from infinity to R.
>> John Polasek
>>
>[hanson]
>.... ahahahahaha... But John, it is not clear here who that "you"
>really is, because **energy**, potential of otherwise, is defined
>as a dimensional identify of M*L^2/T^2 and hence MG/(4 or n)
>will have the dimension of M * L^3*M^-1*T^-2 = L^3/T^2 which
>is NOT any velocity^2. --- v^2 has a L^2/T^2 dimension.
>>
>So, John  do clarify your statement or you may fall victim to the
>same queer mentation as does Karandash aka "Dono", the Homo,
>who Dunno aka <sa_ge at comcast.net> who has posted and
>attributed to himself lately , that he, the "fa_ge-le", was a
>http://eldoradoclub.net/images/wacko-lg_1_.gif
>and to boot also insists that he is
>http://devilskitchen-chilli.co.uk/Liquid%20Stoopid.jpg
>and then he proudly claims to be a
>http://www.movv.com/prvupload/uploads/super_retard_stfu.jpg
>and adds one more confession to his own wrap sheet stating
>that he is a
>http://politicalpartypoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/retard.jpg
>and  presenting himself in grand style in/as
> http://www.ntoddblog.org/photos/atriots/asshat.jpg
>and reveals a picture of himself to reassert that he Karandash
>aka "Dono", the Homo, who Dunno has realized that he is the
>http://shop.abc.net.au/multimediaitems/images/product_images/5/500188.jpg
>>
>Thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
MG/r is the potential per unit mass. 
We agree: MG/r^2 is LT^-2. Multiply by L to get MG/r and now it's
L^2T^-2 or velocity squared. You need a test mass m to make it real
energy. 
Integrate a unit mass in the field MG/r^2 from infinity to R and you
get MG/R joules for the 1 kg unit mass.
John Polasek