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"Jason Potter" <j__potter@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<UStR7.53831$py5.700739@news.easynews.com>...
> Do you have any proof of this statement?
> 
> "The ONLY reason the Western states today support huge
> populations and intensive agriculture is because they're
> using up their underground aquifers to grow crops which
> will vanish within the next five to ten years--because
> that's how much water those aquifers have until the run
> bone dry, baby. Cheers!"
 
Sure. It's as well-known as bread. Start here:

http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=ogalala+aquifer&hc=0&hs=0

S D Rodrian
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> "S D Rodrian" <sdr@sdrodrian.com> wrote in message
> news:bf7b874e.0112111200.505466d8@posting.google.com...
> > gfostel@aol.com (GFostel) wrote in message
>  news:<20011211023532.14598.00001250@mb-fb.aol.com>...
> > > S D Rodrian wrote:
> > > >
> > > >"RoyBoy" <aphycho@usa.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:<%paQ7.8682$Vz.164805@read1.cgocable.net>...
> > > >
> > > >>> Stop for a minute to think through this old claim: It depends
> > > >>> on the assumption that stone-age hunter-gatherers had populations
> > > >>> running into the tens of millions surviving out in the American
> > > >>> prairies without engaging in the intense agriculture that makes
> > > >>> ththose numbers possible:
>  
> > > >> North America had the luxury of huge herds
> > > >> of meat walking around, of which they used
> > > >> efficiently.  Pound for pound, the nutritional
> > > >> content of meat far outweighs agriculture.
> > > >
> > > >Dear sir, for your information: The plains indians
> > > >only became efficient at killing buffalos AFTER the
> > > >introduction of the horse into North America by the
> > > >Spanish--before then the only way they could hunt
> > > >such a huge animal was by prayer (they got lucky if
> > > >a herd happen to pass where they could stage an ambush
> > > >--a practice which survived in some of their cultures
> > > >long after the pony had made it irrelevant): Try to
> > > >imagine a bunch of stone-age "indians" running after
> > > >a herd of buffalo on foot... and then come back and
> > > >tell me about how they relied on the buffalo for food
> > > >with the same degree of confidence a farmer relies on
> > > >his non-legged crops!!!!
> >
> > I have a sneaking suspicion that late-comers to this thread
> > have assumed the erroneous idea that this is an argument
> > between those who say indians planted and those who say
> > indians hunted!
> >
> > NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > This is merely an argument between those (me) who say
> > indians who hunted never achieved populations into the
> > billions... and those who say indian populations in
> > North America ran into the hundreds or millions: Yeah, like
> > the 50-million strong settlements of Eskimos in Alaska.
> >
> > The indians were stone-age hunter-gatherers: Intensive
> > agriculture requires something called the "plow" (or the
> > "plough" in weird places like England): Ya can't have
> > stone plows turning up the rock-hard (dry) prairies.
> >
> > The only other kind of intensive agriculture is that of the
> > grasses/roots-farmers, and this requires marshy soil... which
> > only exists in those places where --surprise-- the earliest
> > white explorers reported substantial indian populations!
> >
> > The ONLY reason the Western states today support huge
> > populations and intensive agriculture is because they're
> > using up their underground aquifers to grow crops which
> > will vanish within the next five to ten years--because
> > that's how much water those aquifers have until the run
> > bone dry, baby. Cheers!
> >
> > Once that happens... all the super-bounty of food now being
> > shipped to Russian/China and given away to Africa and Asian
> > countries will end. Period. The United States itself will
> > need to start importing food, and this will trigger famines
> > and massive die-offs on this planet of ours which will make it
> > look like the dinosaurs are dying off all over again--except
> > it'll be us this time.
> >
> > Can the starving populations of the third world which have
> > murdered their most experienced farmers because they were too
> > uppity and rich... suddenly start feeding themselves within
> > the next decade? Not in your dreams: They will do what all
> > populations who have killed their most experienced farmers
> > have done since the dawn of time: Starve to death even while
> > standing atop some of the most fertile land on earth. Bye bye.
> >
> > Don't say I didn't warn you,
> >
> > sdr
> > poems.sdrodrian.com
> > physics.sdrodrian.com
> >