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Uniform expansion of space between clumps
of matter or uniform shrinkage of matter
amid 'clumps' of space are equally impossible.
It is why a shell grows in a spiral.
Uniform expansion or shrinkage of both space
AND matter at the same time is the only possible thing-
*without* postulating an edge to space and/or time.
John

S D Rodrian wrote:

> "tomm-gulland" <tomm-gulland@supanet.com> wrote in message
> news:<9v66ru$7fc$1@chilli.nntp.netline.net.uk>...
> > Yeh, I can see the idea behind your imploding universe. However,
>
> There's always a however. If you handn't placed one there
> I would have been forced to place one there myself.
>
> > it
> > necessitates, if I interpret you correctly,
> > that the outer rim of a galaxy
> > (speaking in terms of a galaxy's chief
> > gravitational sphere of influence)
> > gets closer and closer to the galaxy's centre,
>
> Yep. In absolute terms (that is: from God's point of view).
> But you are not God (get over it). Therefore your view is always
> relativistic. This means that relative to everything else,
> everything always seems to remain exactly as it has ever been.
>
> > so people on the outside of
> > that galaxy are in a sense receding from other galaxies.
>
> Please: Don't smack your brain against any walls on my account.
> It's the simplest thing to understand...
>
> 1) In the beginning you had... the largest expanse.
>    What is it made of? It doesn't matter. It works whether
>    it was made of wood or nothing at all surrounded by something.
>
> 2) That expanse begins to implode. Why? Gravity.
>
> 3) Gravity creates clumps (bits of matter) even as the whole
>    universe (what was once that expanse) is itself imploding.
>    God sees it's imploding. He's not shrinking, so he sees that
>    the universe is shrinking compared to Him. But for the rest
>    of us the universe is all there is, so it doesn't ever really
>    change. Why? Because we'd need to measure it against God. And
>    we just can't see God.
>
> 4) The "clumps of matter" shrink (from each other) creating
>    space (distances between themselves). Even as they continue
>    to concentrate.
>
> 5) After a while... the imploding universe appears to have
>    achieved an eternally changeless shape (and, in fact, the
>    only "change" people notice is that "space" continues to be
>    "created" ... galaxies appear to be receeding from each other).
>
> 6) Astronomers evolve here & there and speculate that the
>    universe "must" have been created in a Big Bang which sent
>    the galaxies exploding every whichway, since they have no idea
>    the universe is imploding (how such a thing could be possible).
>
> 7) Wiser beings in the future discover that those primitive
>    astronomers thought with their eyeballs instead of with their
>    brains and realize that the ancient poet and Usenet crackpot
>    S D Rodrian was correct after all. Then they go for a beer.
>
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