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Article #318Ramsay's misreading
From: Jack Sarfatti
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 12:18
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 12:18
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Ramsay writes: "I did not write "because the missing factor of 2..."; I've even checked my files to see whether I wrote such a thing, and it isn't there. You just tacked that onto my comment. Please do not misquote me in the future- especially within quotation marks!" Ramsay - look again at the text. I quoted you correctly , and then I gave my version in contrast as an answer to your version. I did not tack on "missing factor of 2" to your statement - that was my statement! You said that receiver will count partners of transmitter photons that were not counted at transmitter and I challenged your remark by saying that the receiver will not count them because the "missing factor of 2" occurs equally for both receiver and transmitter - its an over-all factor for all local probabilities. I will comment of rest of your post later. Someone wrote that commutativity of field operators across spacelike intervals precludes ftl correlation signals. That is standard view but it is false. See de la Torre in Foundations of Physics Letters - at least two papers in last 2 years. I keep saying this but it passes people by. Vanishing spacelike commutators are necessary if there is no ftl correlation signal but not sufficient! Schrodinger showed this in 1930! You can have a Heisenberg uncertainty principle i.e. incompatibility or product of root mean square fluctuations greater than non-zero c-number even if the corresponding operators commute! What does the trick is entanglement! Because of nonlcoal entanglement, measurements of commuting local operators outside each other's light cones can interfere with each other!
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!pacbell.com!well!sarfatti From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) Subject: Ramsay's misreading Message-ID: <Bx38uJ.93u@well.sf.ca.us> Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 12:18:18 GMT Lines: 35