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Article #326Re: Particle Research
From: SCOTT I CHASE
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 17:17
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 17:17
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In article <1992Nov2.042653.13150@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> jboggs@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs) writes: >From article <23553@galaxy.ucr.edu>, by baez@ucrmath.ucr.edu (john baez): >> In article <1ct83dINNogs@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler) writes: >>>Bravo, Scott. You have hit upon what I consider to be the core issue of >>>supporting basic, pure scientific research. I believe that in some sense, >>>we must consider learning simply for learning's sake to be worthwhile. >>>I work in theoretical cosmology -- specifically, the theory of large-scale >>>strucutre -- which is probably one of the least practically useful fields >>>of physics. I believe that the justification for funding my research >>>is a lot like the justification for being patrons of painters or poets. >> >> I hope, then, that you will satisfied with a level of government funding >> of science comparable to that received by painters and poets. This means >> either a massive increase in government support of the arts, a massive >> decrease in government funding of pure scientific research, or something >> in between. >> > >Seems to me that saying the justification is similar is a far cry from >saying there should be equal funding... or even that that funding should >come from the same source. Sorry, that witty response just doesn't make >any sense. Indeed, In most businesses, various activities get funded according to need. Toilets are crucial at a GM plant. Try building cars without them. But they don't get the level of funding that the site safety engineer gets, who doesn't get as much money as the robotics people. It's not that robotics is more or less important than worker safety. It just costs more. A rational government also factors need together with utility when determining how to allocate money. How much cash is needed to support an intellectually exciting artistic community from which we would all benefit? I suspect that a fair number would be more than is currently allocated (the budget has been slashed by the right-wingers in the Reagan/Bush administrations), but not nearly as much as is needed for activities which require large investments in infrastructure, like NASA. -Scott -------------------- Scott I. Chase "It is not a simple life to be a single cell, SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV although I have no right to say so, having been a single cell so long ago myself that I have no memory at all of that stage of my life." - Lewis Thomas
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!ames!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!csa2.lbl.gov!sichase From: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Particle Research Date: 2 Nov 1992 09:17 PST Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA Lines: 44 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2NOV199209170867@csa2.lbl.gov> References: <23553@galaxy.ucr.edu> <1992Nov2.042653.13150@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> <1992Nov2.062748.16067@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41