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Article #3822Re: How old is the universe?
From: Emory F. Bunn
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:45
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:45
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I don't know if anybody is still reading this thread, but I wanted to clarify something regarding my last two postings. My original source of dismay was the fact that people constantly make assertions about "a typical universe" without having any precise notion of how to assign probabilities to different Universes. I went on to make the rash, unsupported claim that there did not exist a measure on the space of possible Universes, and so it was completely impossible to give such statements precise meaning. Steve Carlip rightly pointed out that I hadn't justified that statement, and I still can't (although I think it's true). What I want to point out right now is that my original claim was that the statements people make about "typical Universes," "fine-tuning" in cosmology, and so forth are not justified by any kind of rigorous reasoning. All I need to justify this claim is the fact that nobody currently knows how to define a measure on the set of possible Universes, which is a much weaker claim than the one I made earlier (that such a measure can't possibly exist). This assertion is much easier to justify: Read the literature all you want, and you won't find such a measure. All right, I'm done ranting for a while. -Ted
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!know!hri.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!physics.Berkeley.EDU!ted From: ted@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Emory F. Bunn) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: How old is the universe? Message-ID: <1a5kiqINN6mt@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 28 Sep 92 00:45:14 GMT References: <19tid9INNo1h@agate.berkeley.edu> <17584@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <1a3j6vINNsh9@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: ted@physics.berkeley.edu Organization: Physics Department, U.C. Berkeley. Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu