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Article #4006Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix
From: Tim Dodd
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 21:02
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 21:02
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In article <1992Nov5.173352.20400@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes: +In article <73753@hydra.gatech.EDU+ cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes: ++If a concept is defined in such a manner that it cannot in principle ++ever be shown to pertain to a component of reality, that concept is by ++definition meaningless. + + This seems to depend, to a great degree, on your definition of + 'reality'. You may well define it so that anything that is + not reality is meaningless. If, however, you define it so that reality + is equivalent to the domain of science, things that are outside + do not lack innate 'meaning.' In fact, it is arguable that *any* + concept of which one can conceive has 'meaning' simply in the conception, + regardless of the nature of 'reality'. + + dale bass "Meaning" refers to the mapping between words and the objects to which they refer. If a word is defined in such a way as to preclude even the possibility of establishing that its referent does in fact exist, then there is no semantic mapping and hence, no meaning. Words can also refer to concepts. A word can be regarded as meaningful if the concept it refers to exists, but if there are no real referents for the concept, then the concept is meaningless in the same way as a word would be. Since there is no law disallowing the existence of meaningless words or concepts, one can in fact carry on quite detailed and apparently learned discussions of great technicality over concepts which are in fact meaningless. Philosophers & theologians often do this without giving even a thought to whether their subject pertains to anything outside their conceptual universe. It is not difficult to fall into a mode of thought wherein it is implicitly assumed that just because we have a word for something, that word is necessarily meaningful (i.e., refers to something real). If we wish to acquire the truth, this is something which must be guarded against. You cannot render something real by altering the definition of "reality". To do so amounts to nothing more than playing with words and imparts no useful information. Indeed, loose terminology can be very misleading to the unguarded mind. Tim -- Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech: cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!destroyer!gatech!prism!cegtitd From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix Message-ID: <73795@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 5 Nov 92 21:02:27 GMT References: <1992Nov4.225441.22809@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU+ <73753@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1992Nov5.173352.20400@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 46