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Article #4066Re: NASA Coverup
From: Mcirvin
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 00:16
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 00:16
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whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) writes: [quoting Snarfy] >> Throughout the fifties and sixties , the so called "neutral point" >> where the gravitational forces of the earth-moon system balance,was >> given over and over again as being between 22,100 and 25,200 miles from >> the surface of the moon in the direction of the earth. > Given by who? It doesn't follow from anything I see in >the data, nor do you give any attribution. Judging from calculations I just did, I think this range comes from there being at least two different "neutral points" in question; the low number looks about right for the place where gravitational forces balance, and the high number is probably the Lagrange point where an object will orbit the earth in step with the moon. >> The July 25th , 1969 issue of TIME magazine stated that the Neutral >> Point was 43,495 miles from the center of the moon. Werner von Braun >> stated in the 1969 edition of "History of Rocketry and Space Travel" >> that the neutral point was 43,495 miles the center of the moon . The >> pre-Apollo distances were given as 20,000 to 25,000 miles from the >> center of the moon. > Given by whom? Either there is a second definition involved, or >SOMEONE made an error. Several someones, if the range of 20,000 to 25,000 >is to be believed. Again, I see no source for the questionable numbers. Someone who redirected the thread to alt.sci.physics.new-theories suggested that this was the result of a typo, since the number is very close to the distance of the Lagrange point from the moon in *kilometers* rather than miles. I suspect this may be the case. Note that the Lagrange point, not the balancing-forces point, is the spot around which you can actually orbit things; in the rotating frame, it's a saddle point of the effective potential, with the stable direction transverse to the earth-moon line. -- Matt McIrvin
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!cs.widener.edu!eff!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!ogicse!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc8!mcirvin From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: NASA Coverup Keywords: Moon Neutral Point calculation Message-ID: <mcirvin.721009004@husc8> Date: 6 Nov 92 00:16:44 GMT Article-I.D.: husc8.mcirvin.721009004 References: <4576@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> <1992Nov4.223922.23913@u.washington.edu> Lines: 41 Nntp-Posting-Host: husc8.harvard.edu