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Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix

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From: Blair P. Houghton
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 21:27
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In article <1992Nov3.183520.27343@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat) writes:
>crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>> 
>>       Why do certain people have such difficulty with the proposition
>>       that there are domains which 'science' and 'logic' can never reach?

Because to admit they exist is to open oneself to arguments
based on imagination and improbability.  If science is to
be limited by theologians then the theologians have leave
to create any number of scenarios for deities.

I have no problem with religious fiction (I mean, I *love*
Dr. Who, and that's hardly any better science than is the
Bible).  However, when the authors of these fictions claim
that they are not fiction, then they reach into the realm
of schizophrenia.  Further, when the adherents of these
authors accept these pronouncements as true, and form
political coalitions with the purpose of using this fiction
to redesign the social laws which govern the limits of my
behavior, then it is only right, natural, and obvious that
I should have "difficulty" with it.

I should point out that anything a logician can't reach is
also therefore unreachable to a theologian, so it is self-
defeating to declare voids in knowability.  Since you declare
voids in knowability, you declare yourself defeated.

>Yeah.  Surely Goedel is good for *something* ...

Propping up the television set, last time I saw it.

				--Blair
				  "'There!  I've run rings
				   around you, logically.'
				   'Ohhh--INTERCOURSE the penguin!"
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From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)
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Subject: Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix
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Date: 5 Nov 92 21:27:52 GMT
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