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In article <1ded61INNin6@chnews.intel.com>, bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
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|> In article <1dchkqINNt4k@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> johno@sdd.hp.com (John Ongtooguk) writes:
|> >       ........... Science is more of a falsifier than deliverer of 
|> >truth and after enough "is, is not" the truth may become evident, or 
|> >at least accepted as such. 
|> 
|> Science may rationally improve its methods in order to more
|> accurately determine the efficacy of its models.  This does
|> not imply in any way that the presenters of the previous models
|> were making false claims, unless in the course of presenting
|> the models they lied.

   Falsifier as in proving false, not representing falsely. Proving
   something to be false is not the same as stating the 'truth',
   and in this regard science has had a lot to say about religion
   as well as previous scientific 'truths'.     

|> In article <1992Nov6.020049.6292@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Ba
|> ez) writes:
|> >>  If the truth is always changing then what is it after it changes ?
|> >
|> >"Error."
|> 
   Meaning in some cases that the previous statement was wrong and can 
   no longer be regarded as the 'truth'; the nature of the atom, of
   galaxies, the apparent size of the universe, etc.     

|> Science, when presented properly, admits its faults to examination
|> and discovery; it makes claims only about the logical deductions
|> calculated and the experiments conducted, and those claims are
|> only that the results are as they appear.
|> ............
|> In contrast, religion strives to hide its fundamental faults
|> behind paradoxical aphorisms about faith and sin. 

   Speaking as an agnostic supporter of science a problem that I've
   seen is that while science has had a lot to say about religious
   truths and has for a lot of people replaced religion as the means
   for understanding their place in the world it doesn't offer much
   in the way of a value system. Have to pray the best I guess %^)

   John Ongtooguk (johno@sdd.hp.com)