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Article #4225Re: Static Gravity vs. Gravitational Radiation (was Spin)
From: Matt Austern
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:52
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:52
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In article <1992Sep30.160233.17640@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes: > Hmm, this is peculiar. My feeble Quayle's-eye view of gravity led me > to the thought that finite propagation of gravity was only detectable > in accelerating situations (such as two stars rotating about each > other). I am now hearing an equivalent statement, but expressed in > terms of a distinction between gravitation and gravitational > radiation. In both electromatnetism and gravitation, the only time you can see a finite speed of propagation is when something is propagating---that is, when there is radiation. There is, however, a real difference between electromagnetism and gravitation, which probably shouldn't be glossed over too quickly: radiation is much more important in electromagnetism than in General Relativity. The (naive) way I look at it is that since there are two different signs of electric charge, you can get electromagnetic radiation from a time-varying dipole moment. In the case of gravitation, however, the lowest-order term that can produce radiation is a time-varying quadrupole moment, which thus results in a large suppression factor. What this means, then, is that even in situations where something is accelerating, the gravitational radiation that is produced may well be either absent or very tiny. (In the case of the Solar System, for example, I don't think there's any hope of detecting it.) And, again: if radiation is completely negligible, then you're not going to see any propagation delays. -- Matthew Austern Just keep yelling until you attract a (510) 644-2618 crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a austern@lbl.bitnet faction, an army! If you don't have any matt@physics.berkeley.edu solutions, become a part of the problem!
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!agate!matt From: matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Static Gravity vs. Gravitational Radiation (was Spin) Date: 30 Sep 92 10:52:22 Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group) Lines: 34 Message-ID: <MATT.92Sep30105222@physics.berkeley.edu> References: <STEINLY.92Sep29105205@topaz.ucsc.edu> <MATT.92Sep29114552@physics.berkeley.edu> <STEINLY.92Sep29131347@topaz.ucsc.edu> <1992Sep30.160233.17640@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: matt@physics.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:02:33 GMT