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Article #4262Re: Expansion
From: RING, DAVID WAYNE
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 01:04
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 01:04
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baez@ucrmath.ucr.edu (john baez) writes... >> The region of space which is >>inside a galaxy satisfies the same local einstein equation as the above >>recollapsing example, so why do galaxies live so long? > >'Cause they're smaller. I'm sure one can work out the math, but >it's bound to amount to just that. For example, one can have >a fist-sized ball of iron, which will essentially never collapse >(quantum fluctuations aside), but a galaxy-sized ball of iron >would collapse mighty fast. I'm surprised at you John, you forgot the atomic repusion! :) I get that a fist-sized ball of superdust weighing in around a kilogram collapses in about an hour. I think that will be about the same for an observer in the center of your iron galaxy. But I'm depending on my already disproven intuition. :) I also think the size has an effect, along with the empty 'outside'. I.e. there will be tidal forces which will disturb my intuition. There are no tidal forces in the closed cosmology. I would then demand that the scale at which I approximate the star density as a fluid is small enough that the tidal forces are small. But a given region gets stretched out so that they become large nevertheless. I haven't decided yet whether this solves my problem. Dave Ring dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu!dwr2560 From: dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu (RING, DAVID WAYNE) Subject: Re: Expansion Message-ID: <30SEP199220042116@zeus.tamu.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Sender: news@tamsun.tamu.edu (Read News) Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services References: <1992Sep29.040437.6678@cid.aes.doe.CA> <Sep.29.16.54.08.1992.28530@ruhets.rutgers.edu> <29SEP199220244986@zeus.tamu.edu> <22594@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:04:00 GMT Lines: 28