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Article #4303Re: Simple observation about Quantum Kitty Cats
From: Daryl McCullough
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 12:53
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 12:53
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In article <297@mtnmath.UUCP>, paul@mtnmath.UUCP (Paul Budnik) writes: >> 1. QM, with its quaint axioms about measurement processes is >> an enormously successful theory; there are absolutely no hints >> to the limitations to its applicability. > >That depends on what you consider a hint. Quantum mechanics predicts that >by changing the setting on an instrument we can influence what happens >arbitrarily large distances away. There has never been a shred of >experimental evidence supporting such action at a distance. This is more >than a hint at limitations. It is a powerful argument suggesting that >quantum mechanics is false. The EPR-like correlations are certainly strange, but as far as I know there is no experimental evidence contradicting the predictions of QM. >The fact that general relativity and quantum mechanics are not mutually >consistent is another hint that all is not well. I should have made it clear that I was talking about empirical evidence. You're right, there are theoretical problems that suggest troubles for QM. >I have repeatedly challenged this group to come up with objective reasons >for preferring existing formulations of quantum mechanics to the assumption >that quantum collapse is local physical process. If you are convinced >there are no hints to the limitations of quantum mechanics, you must >have excellent arguments against quantum collapse as a physical local >process. I would love to see them. It seems clear to me that the wave function is not a physical field, in the sense of the classical electromagnetic field. The problem shows up when you consider the quantum mechanics of more than one particle; the wave function becomes a function of position in configuration space, rather than space-time. That is, in general the wave function is of the form Psi(r1,r2,...,rn,t), where rj is the position vector for the jth particle. As far as I know, there is no way to interpret such a thing as a field---what is its value at the North Pole, for instance? There is no such thing as the value of the wave function at a particular space-time point, so it doesn't make much sense to talk about that value collapsing. Daryl McCullough ORA Corp. Ithaca, NY
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!scylla!daryl From: daryl@oracorp.com (Daryl McCullough) Subject: Re: Simple observation about Quantum Kitty Cats Message-ID: <1992Oct1.125305.13437@oracorp.com> Organization: ORA Corporation Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:53:05 GMT Lines: 48