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Re: jokes & sexisim in physics

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From: John Flanagan
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 04:05
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In article <1992Nov4.205525.2541@aoa.aoa.utc.com> carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft) writes:
>x
>Men just don't get it.
>One of the things we don't get is that it's absurd for a bunch
>of men to pontificate as to whether certain jokes are offensive
>to women and whether this is part of the reason women avoid
>science (or for that matter football).
>Women know.  The sooner men stop speaking for them and listening
>to them, the better.

Yes, but on the other hand, it is not women's responsibility to
educate men about sexism.  Men should be able to figure it out for
themselves -- which sometimes involves a certain amount of discussion.

>I also hate the common use (see one line up) of "them" or "us" in
>discussions of the difference between the genders.  We could
>possibly be united :=(

Yes, but...forget it, you know the rest of the argument.

--John
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