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Article #4399Re: The size of electrons, and Fanciful misc SAGA
From: Vaughan R. Pratt
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 23:16
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 23:16
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In article <1992Nov8.154955.15938@prim> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: >After a while, the implications of working with zeros and ones just start >to sink in. The digitization of life has been proceeding so gradually that >maybe you don't realize what a revolution we are going through. Music is now >nearly all digital and most of us can't tell the difference. Occams razor >might suggest that there are _no_ continuums out there. We can get by OK >without 'em. > >Now you might argue that computers are just a tool, no big deal. But >I would say that technology leading to digitization is no coincidence, >rather the digitization of life _reflects_ the underlying nature of reality. > >Nature is trying to give us a hint. > >Poor old physics is still stuck in the analog nineteenth century. The whole >mighty edifice has been built on sand and the tide is coming in... > >Dave Griffiths You are forgetting that scalability is a big concern today in CS. Digital models don't scale gracefully, the bits look bigger. Smooth scalability demands a smooth view of what one is scaling. A digital view inhibits scalability. When I was just starting as a Ph.D. student in Berkeley in 1969 I heard a lecture by someone whose surname I think was Greenspan. His topic was the numerical solution of differential equations, and throughout the lecture he kept making points of the above ilk, how everything was really discrete when you got right down to it and numerical analysis needed to take much more advantage of all this discreteness in the world than it did. Well, the two numerical analysts present, Vel Kahan and Beresford Parlett, were incensed. At question time Kahan ripped right into Greenspan. challenging the efficacy of his "digital" approach. Never having witnessed such a ferocious attack in a lecture before, I asked Parlett his opinion afterwards for calibration and he assured me in very strong terms that he too felt that Greenspan's digital emphasis was not at all helpful (he used a word that I expect he would prefer not to have attributed to him in this forum). The situation today with fonts is like this. In the early 1980's many people *identified* computer fonts with bitmaps. Only a very few back then in the desktop computer business realized that bitmaps would become increasingly expensive as pixels shrank. Today you can buy a 600 dot per inch printer for $2K, and at that granularity bitmap fonts are a joke, smooth outline fonts are the only way to go. That computers are digital has no more significance than that they are silicon based. With your argument you could equally convincingly show that poor old biology is still stuck in the carbon-based nineteenth century. -- Vaughan Pratt
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU!Sunburn.Stanford.EDU!pratt From: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) Subject: Re: The size of electrons, and Fanciful misc SAGA Message-ID: <1992Nov8.231641.28334@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. References: <1992Nov6.142004.9208@prim> <1992Nov7.214329.24552@galois.mit.edu> <1992Nov8.154955.15938@prim> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:16:41 GMT Lines: 52