Article View: sci.physics
Article #4427Re: Simple observation about Quantum Kitty Cats
From: Paul Budnik
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 16:06
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 16:06
50 lines
3363 bytes
3363 bytes
In article <1992Oct2.202249.21453@galois.mit.edu>, jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes: > >But my formalism makes the same predictions of quantum mechanics with > >the exception of tests of Bell's inequality. > > Let's see your formalism - where are the equations? What precisely does > it predict in situations where QM violates Bell's inequality? Not > words, numbers. Show how to do some QFT-type calculations using this > formalism (since QFT combines relativity and QM) - say electron-electron > scattering. If I could do that I would not be wasting my time posting this stuff. I would be publishing it and patiently waiting for the Nobel committee to call. I should not have said `my formalism'. The alternative to the existing theory I am proposing is to add locality as an additional constraint to that theory. This implys that we do not know how the wave function changes before and after an observation. The multiparticle wave function cannot, in general, change in a local fashion when an observation is made, but that is not the issue. It must change in such a way that there are no nonlocal macroscopic effects. No one knows how it does change. I think it is a chaotic-like process that cannot be modeled by an equation. The underlying laws can be modeled and the whole process could in theory be simulated on a computer. But one cannot give a simple equation that models this behavior, Just as one cannot give a simple equation that models the atmosphere in enough detail to predict the weather. That can only be done to a limited degree by large scale simulations. This means there are holes in the existing theory at the point an observation is made. We shold acknowledge their existence. We do not know what is happening at these points. Testing Bell's inequality will give us some clues. A few months ago you gave an argument why quantum mechanics may not be completely valid at very small distances. You do not have an alternative theory worked out. You would like to develop such a theory that combines gravity with QFT but you know it will be hard problem and take a long time. I do not think you expect to be able to do it by yourself. My point is that questions about locality should be treated in the same way. It would be foolish to insist that quantum mechanics is completely correct at all distance scales. It is equally foolish to assume it violates locality. There does not exist a shred of evidence for nonlocal affects. The main difference between these two cases is the ability to validate a theory with experiments. Effects at the distant scale you have in mind are completely inaccessible by any foreseeable experimental techniques. It is almost impossible to build correct theories under these circumstances. Tests of locality can be done using existing technology. Perhaps you should consider changing your area of research. :-) Paul Budnik
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<306@mtnmath.UUCP>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mtnmath!paulReferences:
<297@mtnmath.UUCP> <22592@galaxy.ucr.edu> <299@mtnmath.UUCP> <1992Oct2.202249.21453@galois.mit.edu>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mtnmath!paul From: paul@mtnmath.UUCP (Paul Budnik) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Simple observation about Quantum Kitty Cats Message-ID: <306@mtnmath.UUCP> Date: 3 Oct 92 16:06:12 GMT References: <297@mtnmath.UUCP> <22592@galaxy.ucr.edu> <299@mtnmath.UUCP> <1992Oct2.202249.21453@galois.mit.edu> Organization: Mountain Math Software, P. O. Box 2124, Saratoga. CA 95070 Lines: 50