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Re: Is Math Hard?

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From: Hal F Lillywhite
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 20:59
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In article <1992Nov8.115711.8199@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>In article <10673@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite) writes:
 
>|> In article <611@alden.UUCP> sgr@alden.UUCP (Stan Ryckman) writes:
>|> >In article <10620@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite) writes:

>|> >Just how do we "take what they [the "experts"] say [about
>|> >education] into account and then apply our
>|> >own intelligence?"  A vote?  I bet creationism still would win out
>|> >in a fair portion of the U.S.
 
 
>|> Well, yes we do it by vote.  The only other choice available to us
>|> is some form of dictatorship.

>Dear g-d, we have here a product of the American education system. There are
>thousands of choices available to us besides dictatorship and democracy.

OK, name one.  And no I don't mean just different forms of democracy
(eg. representative, direct etc.) or dictatorship (absolute, limited
etc.)  Name a form of government which neither allows the people a
choice nor allows certain classes to rule regardless of the desires
of the majority.

>Democracy is a disgusting system wherein the majority rules. Democracy will
>always result in a communist economic system. This is its nature because a
>majority of people will always covet something a minority has. This is NOT
>the way a child's education should be determined. IT CAN NOT BE. The parents
>of a child must make that decision.

I think you are over-reacting badly.  My original point was that as
parents (and voters) we must not blindly accept what the "experts"
say, we should listen to their advice and use our intelligence to
decide.  I agree that parents should make that decision, a position
largely supported by our democracy.  That is why we have local
school boards and why parents are allowed home or private schooling
options.  True this is an expensive option for most but maybe
someday our democracy will allow a real choice (over the objections
of the "experts" in the teachers unions).

>You are advocating the Hillary Clinton school of thought. 

I am absolutely *not* advocating the Hillary Clinton school of
"thought."  She seems to want to set herself up as the expert
dicatator to whom we should all bow in this matter.  No way.  I may
listen to her opinions and reasons but I most certainly will not
blindly follow her.  Nor do I believe that the majority of voters
will follow her.  In this case democracy will probably maintain a
measure of sanity contrary to what Mrs. Clinton would like to impose
upon us.
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From: hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite)
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Subject: Re: Is Math Hard?
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