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Article #4520Re: Einstein and Judaism
From: terry
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 23:27
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 23:27
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Hi folks, In article <TORKEL.92Nov9204231@bast.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes: > In article <emc.721244750@tristan> emc@doe.carleton.ca (Eli Chiprout) writes: > > | Einstein fought against Quantum Theory until his last days because he > | felt that it completely contradicted God as he understood God to be. > > Einstein didn't "fight" QT, he thought it was incomplete. As for his > reasons, or if you like, philosophical prejudices, he made them clear > enough. They were quite ordinary realistic philosophical prejudices... > > He didn't base them on any ideas about God, as far as his actual writings > and reported explanations indicate. Almost invariably, people who imagine > that Einstein proceeded from theology to philosophy and physics base this > view on nothing more than one or two aphoristic formulations. Since I may have indirectly helped initiate this thread with my earlier comments about the strong theistic views of Newton, I guess I should briefly add that nothing I've ever seen about Dr. Einstein ever gave me the idea that his rejection of QM was based on his Judaic background. (If your particular religious upbringing was the *only* issue, then I suppose Dr. Richard Feynman should also have been adamantly anti-QM also, hmmmmm?) The persistence with which people blandly gloss over Einstein's objections to QM as trivial or simply biased astonishes me. Folks might try reading the biography "Subtle is the Lord" to get a feel for the depth of his thinking about the issue -- it was a good deal deeper and more profound than most of us will every realize, I suspect. The kernel of Einstein's objections appeared to center around the curious problem of a universe in which the timelines of all objects are not fully determined, yet time itself is relative to the inertial frame of the user. If more than one person can be in the "past" relative to some event that is being observed, how *do* you reconcile the idea of a future that is not yet fully determined? It's not a trivial question, nor has anyone every fully resolved it, at least not by anything I've ever seen or read. Winners do tend to rewrite history, as they say, and Einstein was not the winner when it came to QM -- even though 99.99999 percent of the ordinary population of the world (or more!) would heartily agree with Einstein's pragmatic view that, for example, the moon *really does* exist without having to have its wavefunction collapsed by an observer. Cheers, Terry Bollinger +--------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Terry Bollinger | Phone: 214-518-3538 | | Advanced Switching Laboratory, NEC America | Fax: 214-518-3499 | | 1525 Walnut Hill Lane, Irving, Texas 75038 | Email: terry@asl.dl.nec.com | +--------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!news!iat.holonet.net!agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!sgiblab!nec-gw!netkeeper!vivaldi!aslws01!aslws01!terry From: terry@asl.dl.nec.com Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Einstein and Judaism Message-ID: <1992Nov9.232752.24615@asl.dl.nec.com> Date: 9 Nov 92 23:27:52 GMT References: <96657@netnews.upenn.edu> <emc.721244750@tristan> <TORKEL.92Nov9204231@bast.sics.se> Sender: news@asl.dl.nec.com Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX Lines: 55 Originator: terry@aslws01 Nntp-Posting-Host: aslws01