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Article #4564Re: black holes & thermodynamics
From: Mcirvin
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 02:17
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 02:17
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00jcbenson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes: >It seems to me that a Black Hole is an object which orders the universe. It >brings matter together into a point. Now the Law of Thermodynamics concerning >Chaos seems to suggest that the universe tends to bring down rather than to >order itself. So, my question is, why can a Black Hole exist if it continually >orders the universe instead of breaking down? The key is not to take too seriously the identification of entropy with "disorder". Disorder is a term that can be interpreted to mean all kinds of things, whereas entropy has a fairly specific meaning. It's the entropy of the universe that doesn't decrease, and a black hole's entropy increases as it grows; though I don't understand this completely, the entropy is apparently proportional to the area of the event horizon, so the entropy goes *up* as matter goes in. A somewhat more precise definition of the entropy of a system is that it is proportional to the logarithm of the number of microscopic states of the system that are macroscopically indistinguishable. Since a black hole renders many states of its interior completely indistinguishable (you can't see in), it seems reasonable to regard larger black holes as having more entropy. Black holes can shrink too, by Hawking radiation, and then the entropy of the black hole is very slowly shed in the form of thermal photons. One way to think about this is to think of the black hole as a device that converts anything that falls into it (eventually) into thermal photons, with a corresponding increase in entropy. -- Matt McIrvin, posting nonsense again
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!psuvax1!hsdndev!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc8!mcirvin From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: black holes & thermodynamics Message-ID: <mcirvin.718251479@husc8> Date: 5 Oct 92 02:17:59 GMT References: <1992Oct4.195035.10076@bsu-ucs.uucp> Lines: 31 Nntp-Posting-Host: husc8.harvard.edu