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Article #4616Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix
From: Tim Dodd
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:20
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:20
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This entire discussion about whether religion & physics mix has provided abundant evidence that they do not mix. Those who have been advocating the converse view illustrate by their very arguments that such a mix is impossible. It is true that there are many scientists who are religious. It is also true that there are many religious people who are scientifically minded or at least take an interest in science. However, there are two very different modes of thought in operation here. When a person is thinking scientifically that is what I will call "rational mode". In this mode of thought, the sole object is to acquire the truth. What do we mean by "truth"? An assertion is judged "true" if it accurately reflects the nature of reality. How do we decide if a statement is true? We devise an empirical test and let reality tell us if the statement is accurate. Religious thought is typified by "mystical mode". In this mode of thought, it is recognized that there exists a level of "truth" or "reality" to which mere rational thought does not have access. Mystical thought acquires "truth" through revelations of various sorts. The fundamental "truths" of religion are not subject to empirical verification because they are defined in a manner which precludes even the possibility of such testing. It is not possible to mix these two modes of thought. Mysticism does not intrude into science because if it did so, what remained would not be science. (This doesn't stop some people from trying, though!) Imagine a paper on the first detection of the top quark. The paper describes in great detail the experimental set-up, the procedures followed, presents the results of all measurements, etc. The conclusion of the paper says something like: "The alert reader will have noticed that nowhere during the course of the experiment did we see any evidence for the top quark. However, we know that they were there because God told us so." How come we never see a paper like this in _Physical Review Letters_? On the other hand, honest theologians admit that God cannot be found through the use of reason. A "leap of faith" is required to believe in God. The act of taking this leap is mystical by definition, and cannot be rationally justified. These two modes of thought are mutually exclusive. Neither can encompass the other: they cannot be mixed. You can think mystically or rationally, but you cannot do both at the same time. People who call themselves "religious" and "scientific" are not being completely honest. You can be religious *or* scientific; you cannot be both simultaneously. Tim -- Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech: cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gumby!destroyer!gatech!prism!cegtitd From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix Message-ID: <74353@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 10 Nov 92 21:20:00 GMT References: lots of them! Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 49