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Article #466Re: What is Omega_o?
From: Benjamin Weiner
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 17:46
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 17:46
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metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler) writes: >It is true estimates of Omega_o from cluster galaxy dynamics or from >cluster X-ray emission modelling generally result in values smaller than one. >However, it has been shown numerous times, through N-body and hydrodynamical >simulations, that both methods of estimating Omega_o are based on serious >assumptions that affect the analysis. Yes, but most people acknowledge these estimates as lower bounds. I guess I'd phrase it differently: I figure the assumptions are probably true, but couldn't set upper bounds on Omega_0, regardless. They're consistent with Omega_0 = 1 if you assume some kind of biasing, which you have to assume anyway. The arguments for Omega_0 = 1 are of a more global variety (eg horizon problem; structure formation, which you outlined nicely, thanks!) > [ dynamics <-> substructure problem ] > [ x-rays <-> thermalization assumed ] >Both of these are very questionable. In particular, the so-called "beta >discrepancy" suggests strongly that cluster gas has not thermalized since >infall. The substructure problem is well recognized. Not that that stops anybody. For X-rays, the situation is more complex, because the beta problem (brief summary: extended distribution of gas implies that the gas should have a higher specific energy than the galactic matter, but this is not observed, in eg Perseus cluster) isn't always a problem. In my hot little hands I have a paper (Watt et al MNRAS 258, 738) which gives references saying that there is no beta problem for the Coma cluster. >N-body, and N-body + hydrodynamic simulations have shown several times that >such models underestimate cluster masses. For example, Evrard (1990) showed >results for clusters grown in an Omega_o = 1 cosmology which, when virial >and binding mass estimates were applied to the final cluster, showed an >apparent Omega_o = 0.2. This is the key. I just heard a talk by David Weinberg in which he said the same thing (paper in newest Ap J Lett). Basically it comes down to this: when you talk about dark matter, you can never rule out that there's more of it on the larger length scales.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!ruhets.rutgers.edu!bweiner From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: What is Omega_o? Message-ID: <Nov.4.12.46.41.1992.24991@ruhets.rutgers.edu> Date: 4 Nov 92 17:46:41 GMT References: <1992Oct28.024617.5756@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> <28OCT199210483058@csa2.lbl.gov> <MATT.92Oct28111229@physics.berkeley.edu> <phfrom.365@nyx.uni-konstanz.de> <1cv37aINNs5q@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 40