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Article #4685Re: GR with no Einstein? (Was: Re: No big crunch?)
From: Bryan Carpenter
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:47
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:47
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In <1992Nov6.232435.15628@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes: >In article <1992Nov6.042306.899@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes: >> Suppose, as I have been, that you *don't even have* GR. >> In 1906, there was no certainty that GR would be developed. >> In fact, if Einstein had died in 1906, I'm quite sure it >> wouldn't have been. >Oh good, let's argue about this, since it is utterly contrafactual. I'm >sure GR would have been developed (though not in 1906!). Einstein was >not the only person working on trying to come up with relavistic >theories of gravity. Other people came up with some that were getting >sort of close (sorry, I don't have references on this - it would be fun >to know just *how* close). And more importantly, the mathematical >infrastructure had already been laid by Riemann and was being studied by >Cartan and Hilbert, who were sort of into physics. So I am quite sure >someone would have come up with GR after a while. In fact, isn't there some old chestnut about Hilbert presenting Einstein's field equation some time before Einstein published it? I suppose Hilbert had probably been influenced by what Einstein had been saying for the previous ten years, though. (Also, I seem to remember that Einstein ``had'' his equation some time before he finally published it, but he originally thought it had some physical pathology, and abandoned it for a while). Bryan
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