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Article #490Re: No big crunch?
From: Emory F. Bunn
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 19:51
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 19:51
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In article <1992Nov4.134438.27968@sei.cmu.edu> firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes: >In article <1d78l7INNhu2@agate.berkeley.edu> ted@physics1 (Emory F. Bunn) writes: > (Description of the dynamical argument in favor of dark matter deleted.) > >Well, if what you say is indeed what we observe - and I'll gladly >take that on faith - then the "dark matter" hypothesis seems to me >completely bogus. I can't believe that, the more empty space is of >visible matter, the more dark matter there is hiding in it. If the >dark matter gravitates, as it must to close the universe, then its >overall distribution can't be that much different from the distribution >of visible matter, since at that scale gravitation is the overwhelming >force. This argument sounds good, but it isn't right. The dark matter and the visible matter can have extremely different distributions. To explain why, I'll describe one specific cosmological model, the "cold dark matter" model. According to this theory, most of the mass of the Universe is composed of massive particles that only interact via gravitation and the weak force. In particular, the dark matter doesn't interact electromagnetically. (That's why it's "dark.") Now think back to a time when the Universe was very young, hot, and dense. Because of the high temperature, the ordinary matter was almost all ionized. Also, there were a lot of high-energy photons around. That means that there was a large radiation pressure pushing on the baryonic matter. That pressure prevented small inhomogeneities in the baryons from growing into large ones. Since the dark matter doesn't interact electromagnetically, it can't feel the radiation pressure. So small inhomogeneities in the dark matter can start to grow from very early times, while the baryonic matter is forced to remain uniformly distributed until much later. By the time the radiation pressure becomes small (and the protons and electrons combine to form atoms, which happens at roughly the same time), the dark matter has already formed big clumps. These clumps then act as sources that attract the baryons, and they start forming structures too. But because the dark matter got to start clumping much earlier, it winds up being clustered in ways that are very different from the baryonic matter. > >What you describe sounds to me more like a cosmological force of some >kind, either a true fifth force or a gravitational force that, at >large distances, obeys not an inverse square law but an inverse 1.??? >law. Which leads to this thought: in Euclidean space, it's obvious >why gravity and light obey the inverse square law. But why should that >be true in Riemannian space, where a sphere of twice the radius has less >than four times the surface area? Or am I on the edge of lunacy again? Standard models of quantum field theory and general relativity make definite predictions about what the gravitational and electromagnetic forces look like in a curved background spacetime, and these predictions are what is used in the dynamical argument in favor of dark matter. It is entirely possible that these theories are wrong, and that there is some long-range force that behaves in a different way from the known ones, and that it is this force, rather than dark matter, which explains the dynamical effects. There are people who do research into this area, although it is not the preferred hypothesis among the experts. Apparently it's hard to come up with a force law that (a) makes sense in the context of relativity and field theory; (b) explains all the observations; and (c) doesn't conflict with existing observations. Dark matter, in contrast, seems qualitatively to explain what's observed without any completely outrageous new physics. -Ted
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!portal!lll-winken!sun-barr!ames!agate!physics.Berkeley.EDU!ted From: ted@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Emory F. Bunn) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: No big crunch? Message-ID: <1d99kkINNqu7@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 4 Nov 92 19:51:48 GMT References: <1992Nov3.141351.22224@sei.cmu.edu> <1d78l7INNhu2@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Nov4.134438.27968@sei.cmu.edu> Sender: Ted Bunn Followup-To: sci.physics Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu