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Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix

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From: Cameron Randale Bass
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:01
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In article <1dp3vgINN7n2@chnews.intel.com> bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:

>Then I am utterly guilty of worshipping science; for I am
>an inveterate empiricist.

     Worship at will.  Do not confuse this with science.

     How is your inveterate 'empiricism' and worship thereof empirically
     based?
     
>I've read Whitman's (or was it Frost's) descriptions of the
>facets of the process of maturation in which one grows by
>learning to consider ideas from a multitude of sides
>without becoming unglued.  (This is not the same thing as

     A book is no place from which to get ones spirituality?
     Obviously, you get yours straight from God, he said dryly.

>tolerating fools, Corky.)  Einstein's beliefs seem

     I like the cute name, Blair buddy.  Reminds me of the 
     'debates' in second or third grade.  Is this the brand of
     withering logic that you use to undermine the religious
     beliefs of the flock using 'science'?  Good luck.

>strangely sociological, as though he were afraid that being
>both physically and spiritually revolutionary at the same
>time would be too much for his society, or at least very
>impolitic at a time when his stature was needed as much as
>his theories.  He joins with many here who think, "I want
>it to exist; I try to prove it exists; I cannot prove it
>doesn't exist; *therefore it can exist; therefore it
>exists as much as I want."  In the end the only reality is
>that God existed for Einstein to suit his needs for a God.
>God does not exist for me and I have no need for a god.

     A position you seem to sympathize with.  You want your religion
     to be able to disprove all other religions.  When you cannot
     do that, you seem to become agitated.  Unfortunately, you have
     inappropriately given your religion the name 'science', otherwise
     there would be no problem here. 

>[*] There is a fallacy in crossing this point.

     Nope, not from the viewpoint of science. Better yet, why don't
     you explain what the fallacy is?  Graphs and charts would be
     very helpful.

>>I figure the best thing is to ignore them.  Just like
>>I ignore street preachers.
>
>The worst thing is to ignore anyone, if you have nothing
>better to do.  The best thing about street preachers is
>their foundation is narrow so they're easy to tip over.
>Tripping them up impresses intelligent women, too ;-).

     Or makes you look silly and arrogant.  I hope you don't inappropriately
     use the imprimatur of science in such ridiculous pursuits.

                        dale bass
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C. R. Bass                                          crb7q@virginia.edu        
Department of Mechanical, 
     Aerospace and Nuclear Engineering
University of Virginia                              (804) 924-7926
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