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Article #4915Re: Continuos vs. discrete models Was: The size of electrons, ...
From: Gene W. Smith
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:43
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:43
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In article <344@mtnmath.UUCP> paul@mtnmath.UUCP (Paul Budnik) writes:
>This is the question. Continuous models are the simplest to work with
>mathematically, but are the simplest possibility as models of physical
>reality? I do not think so.
It isn't clear to me that any such distinction can be made.
>There is good reason to suspect that no completed infinite totalities
>exist.
I know of none. Name some.
The continuum that appears in formal mathematical systems is different
>then what mathematicians mean by `the continuum'. The latter is a speculative
>philosophical idea that cannot be formalized mathematically.
If it is a speculative philosophical idea, it isn't mathematics. This
sounds like gibberish.
>For example the real numbers definable in any consistent formal system
>are countable.
Completely false, and downright silly to boot.
I presume you meant something like there are countable models of
the first order theory or something like that.
>particular formal system.
>Whether *all real numbers* exists or this phrase has any mathematical
>meaning is itself a speculative philosophical question.
In a word, bunk.
--
Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprecht-Karls University
gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka.de!uni-heidelberg!kalliope!gsmith From: gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith) Subject: Re: Continuos vs. discrete models Was: The size of electrons, ... Message-ID: <1992Nov13.194334.20447@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: IWR, University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <1992Nov7.214329.24552@galois.mit.edu> <1992Nov10.173302.27756@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <344@mtnmath.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 19:43:34 GMT Lines: 39