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Article #494Re: Size of a PHOTON?
From: SCOTT I CHASE
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 19:05
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 19:05
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In article <13379@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, dbc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Bryan Carpenter) writes... >In <1992Nov3.175155.27867@impmh.uucp> dsg@impmh.uucp (Dave Gordon) writes: >>... > >>This relates to something I have been wondering about for a while now: >>is there an upper bound on the freqency of electromagnetic radiation? > >You can increase the energy of a photon indefinitely just >by boosting it into a fast enough reference frame. So the answer >is: no, there is no upper limit on the energy. As I tried to make clear yesterday, this presupposes that the physics of high energy QED is the same as at low energy, a fact against which there is at least some indirect suggestion (I hesitate to use the word "evidence", though some would call it that). Consider radiative corrections in QED. If you allow that there is no new physics at high energy, then photons of arbitrarily high momentum contribute an infinite amount to a variety of integrals which pop up when trying to evaluate Feynman diagrams. It turns out to be unimportant when you want to measure something like the Lamb shift, because these problems plague a free electron as well as a bound one. To measure an energy level, you are interested in the energy *difference* between the free and bound states, and all but a finite part of the effect ultimately cancels, allowing you to accurately calculate energy levels. But the fact remains that the theory includes a seemingly unphysical infinite contribution from high-energy photons. It is therefore reasonable to speculate that something new must happen at high energy which suppresses the range of such photons, and which therefore allows us to escape the "ultraviolet catastrophe." Clearly, you get into a nasty tangle trying to imagine such a modification, and the implications that it would have for special relativity. But this does not imply, as Bryan infers, that it could not happen. It just means that we don't understand the behavior of photons at energies higher than we have ever studied them. This is a good example of how radiative corrections can give us information about physics at energies higher than we can actually reach with our accelerators. This is a common theme in particle physics. Sometimes (not in this case) it allows us direct experimental access to new physics. Some process, which we cannot reproduce in the laboratory, nevertheless contributes,through some virtual intermediate state, to the radiative corrections of processes which we *can* observe directly. A well-known example would be recent attempts to infer the mass of the top quark from how it modifies the radiative corrections to a variety of processes from muon decay to B-zero mixing. -Scott -------------------- Scott I. Chase "It is not a simple life to be a single cell, SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV although I have no right to say so, having been a single cell so long ago myself that I have no memory at all of that stage of my life." - Lewis Thomas
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!decwrl!netsys!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!csa1.lbl.gov!sichase From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Size of a PHOTON? Message-ID: <4NOV199211055734@csa1.lbl.gov> Date: 4 Nov 92 19:05:00 GMT Article-I.D.: csa1.4NOV199211055734 References: <9211021802.AA29403@anubis.network.com> <1992Nov3.175155.27867@impmh.uucp> <13379@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Distribution: world Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA Lines: 56 NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.196 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41