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Article #4974Re: Covariant vs. Lie Derivative in Gen. Rel.?
From: Robert Scott
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:01
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:01
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In article <1992Nov13.213840.10075@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes: >In article <1992Nov12.172748.16273@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> >anderson@fermi.phys.ualberta.ca (Warren G. Anderson) writes: >>In article <1992Nov11.062853.22717@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu >>(John C. Baez) writes: >>> 2) The covariant derivative only requires a tangent vector at one point >>> of the manifold. The price you pay is this: to define it you need to >>> choose a connection on the (tangent bundle of) the manifold. Of course, >>> such a connection - the Levi-Civita connection - comes for free if your >>> manifold has a Riemann metric on it. >> >>Or even a pseudo-Riemannian metric. In fact, wouldn't any way of identifying >>the tangent space with it's dual be enough? > >Agreed, pseudo-Riemannian is fine and of course that's what you have in GR. >As for other cases, I'm suspicious. Take a look at the proof of the >existence and uniqueness of the Levi-Civita connection and see what >happens if your metric is replaced by a nondegenerate *skew-symmetric* >bilinear form on the tangent bundle. I'm afraid something will go >wrong. Why? If nothing did, every symplectic maniold would be blessed >with a natural connection analogous to the Levi-Civita connection. If >such a thing existed I should have heard about it, but I haven't. Of >course, it's possible that I am missing out on this crucial facet of >symplectic geometry!! > >Perhaps the symplectic geometers and fans of gravity theories with >asymmetric metric tensors can straighten this out in a jiffy. ISN'T IT EASY TO SHOW THAT THE LIE ALGEBRA OF SYMMETRIES OF AN AFFINE CONNECTION ON A CONNECTED FINITE-DIMENSIONAL MANIFOLD IS FINITE-DIMENSIONAL? THUS THE LIE ALGEBRA OF INFINITESIMAL SYMPLECTOMORPHISMS OF A SYMPLECTIC MANIFOLD IS FAR TOO BIG TO PRESERVE AN AFFINE CONNECTION. -JAMES DOLAN
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Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ornl!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!darwin.sura.net!udel!sbcs.sunysb.edu!libws3.ic.sunysb.edu!rscott From: rscott@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Robert Scott) Subject: Re: Covariant vs. Lie Derivative in Gen. Rel.? Message-ID: <1992Nov15.230139.24943@sbcs.sunysb.edu> Sender: usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) Nntp-Posting-Host: libws3.ic.sunysb.edu Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook References: <1992Nov11.062853.22717@galois.mit.edu> <1992Nov12.172748.16273@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1992Nov13.213840.10075@galois.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:01:39 GMT Lines: 38