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In article <1992Nov16.025934.14280@reks.uia.ac.be> gustin@evs2.uia.ac.be (Emmanuel Gustin) writes:
>Okay, science can't tell us anything about religion; a God you can subject
>to scientific study is not a God but a part of nature. The other way
>around is possible; because if God knows everything, He could tell us
>something we don't know, and if he is all-powerfull, the He can show his
>powers, doing the impossible. And most religions tell us He did...
>However, then we COULD make a scientific study about His existence,
>implying that God is part of nature, and thus cannot act against nature's
>laws. So all this logic adds up to nothing. My hasty conclusion: whether
>you believe God exists or not, logic won't help you to convince anyone.

     To make this much stronger, 'All-powerful' and 'all-knowing' 
     is a concept outside of science.   One cannot determine such a
     concept within science.

>More important: Science can't accept religion as a part of its structure -
>nor superstition of prejudice.  But religion has to accept logic and
>science, and many religious people have no trouble with that - what the
>pope tried to show when he apologized for the Galilei trial. Theology is
>based on faith but is not a purely mystical affair. As G.K. Chesterton
>made father Brown say when caught fake priest: attacking Logic is bad
>theology. People can't (at least not forever) believe in something that is
>clearly not true. Thus mixing religion into science is *impossible*, but
>mixing science into religion is an *inevitability*. 

     Religion has to accept nothing.  Do you honestly think that the 
     Jains base their belief in reincarnation on *logic*?  There is no
     logic that explains basic facts of existence that must be
     assumed.

     Also, 'clearly not true' is in the eye of the beholder.

>Yes, I know there are lots of people who refuse to mix some science in
>their religion - creationists and others. But don't blame religion for
>this; it's bad science AND bad theology. It is true that religion is

     It is perfectly consistent theology.  It is *not* science.

                          dale bass

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