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Article #5078Re: Attraction & repulstion Re: The answer to not so fundamental questions?
From: Bill Riemers
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:56
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:56
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In article <1992Dec11.152227.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> draper@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
In article <BCR.92Dec11004605@hfl3sn02.cern.ch>, bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) writes:
> > Like charges exchange more posative momentum photons, while negative charges
> "unlike",right?
No. Immagine if we throw a ball back in forth in a gravity free environment. Since
a ball is a real object the absolute momentum exchanges must be posative. So I throw
the ball and fly backwards. You then cetch the ball and fly backwards. Consiquently,
the exchange of a positive momentum object results in a repulsive force. Like charges
repell, unlike attract.
> > exchange more negative momentum photons.
> >
> This is extremely interesting! I asked a similar question a while ago, viz.,
> what information does a photon carry that conveys whether it sprang from a
> positive or negative charge, and hence tells it whether to attract or repel a
> charge of unlike or like sign. I got all the proper admonitions about trying to
> derive a static field result with Feynman diagrams. But you seem to have an
> insight I'm lacking. Please clarify, expand, explain.
Yes the correct way to solve the problem is to solve the integral. (I had to
do that once in a course. Not, too difficult, but I wouldn't call it trivial.)
The point is you solve the integral and in one case you get a net positive momentum
exchanged, in the other a net negative momentum exchanged. However, the integration
is just totaling momentum exchange by photons. So it seems reasonable to interpret
the result satistically as I have above.
Obcourse, now we are moving into the follow-up questions. So my answers are getting
more and more unreliable. Eventually you'll be better off asking a magic 8 ball.
Bill
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!dxcern!dxcern!bcr From: bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) Subject: Re: Attraction & repulstion Re: The answer to not so fundamental questions? In-Reply-To: draper@sscvx1.ssc.gov's message of Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:22:27 GMT Message-ID: <BCR.92Dec12005654@hfl3sn02.cern.ch> Sender: news@dxcern.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics References: <sehari.724010247@class1.iastate.edu> <BCR.92Dec11004605@hfl3sn02.cern.ch> <1992Dec11.152227.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:56:54 GMT Lines: 34