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Article #5792Re: Electric Power Transmission
From: Bronis Vidugiris
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:16
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:16
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In article <HAGERMAN.92Nov19204019@rx7.ece.cmu.edu> hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman) writes: )In article <1992Nov19.202817.29139@sfu.ca> palmer@sfu.ca (Leigh Palmer) writes: )> )> Wow. Thanks for the information, John. I hope someone will be able )> to drop the other shoe and tell us where to learn more about this )> twenty-year-old technology. ) )Your ability to communicate sarcasm without a smiley is nice to see. )But I fear that your comments may mask one important point of my post, )which was to demonstrate that many of the questions asked here can be )sufficiently answered by a tiny bit of research. Need I explain why )actually doing such research is useful? ) )I have visited a hydroelectric plant, and it was rather interesting. )Also of interest is the issue of grid phase maintenance, about which )there have been many guesses and few facts posted, and about which my )encyclopedia is mute. The way I vaguely remember things from college, the phase of a generator with respect to the 'grid' determined the direction and amount of power flow. The generator and grid were modelled as being connected together by some inductance. In one phase direction, the generator contributed power to the grid. In the opposite phase, the generator *took* power from the grid (and acted as a motor). An interesting analogy is a mechanical one. Consider the grid to be like a rotating shaft. The coupling of the generator to the grid via an inductor acts like connecting a (crank-driven) rotating wheel to the rotating shaft via a spring. In one direction, the spring adds energy to the shaft, 'pulling it along', in the other direction the spring acts as a load on the shaft, taking energy away. [The mathematical analogy is to assume voltage is like velocity and that current is like force. The vector product of voltage and current is power. v = L * di/dt across an inductor, so the intergal of the voltage across an inductor is proportional to the instantaneous current. Similarly the intergal of the velocity across a spring (the position) is proportional to the force provided by the spring. Capacitance acts like mass with this mechanical analogy, resistance like some form of friction damping.] However, I'm not sure how global frequency/power regulation is done either. Like the analogy with the rotating shaft, I'd expect that the grid frequency and voltage would tend to rise when too much power was being fed into it (compared to the total load on the grid), and drop when too little power was being fed, but how the overall power regulation is done is something I don't quite understand (I suspect that's what all those power engineering courses are about :-)).
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!areaplg2.corp.mot.com!bhv From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) Subject: Re: Electric Power Transmission Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:16:57 GMT Message-ID: <1992Nov20.191657.23640@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> References: <1992Nov11.154425.8399@speedy.aero.org> <HAGERMAN.92Nov19122352@rx7.ece.cmu.edu> <1992Nov19.202817.29139@sfu.ca> <HAGERMAN.92Nov19204019@rx7.ece.cmu.edu> Sender: news@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com (Net News) Nntp-Posting-Host: 137.23.47.37 Lines: 51