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Article #5818Re: Chaitin's Omega and QM (was: Bayes' theorem and QM)
From: Timothy Murphy
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:59
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:59
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jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes: >I salute Michael Weiss' post introducing people to the literature on >the number Omega, algorithmic information theory, algorithmic >randomness theory etc.. This stuff is seriously cool and should be >known by all those who love beautiful ideas. Here is a nice >bibliography of stuff along these lines that was passed on to me by Dave >DeMers. Unfortunately is doesn't have a reference to Martin-Loef, who >(along with Kolmogorov, Solomonoff, Chaitin and others) deserves a lot >of credit. Thank you very much for your bibliography, which I know I shall find very useful. It seems to me that the central concept of Kolmogorov/Chaitin theory is _entropy_. As I see it, there have been 4 phases in the historical development of this concept -- or perhaps one should say that the same term has been applied to 4 related concepts: 1. Thermodynamics Increase of entropy (S) as the measure of irreversibility. 2. Statistical mechanics S = -\sum p\log p 3. Shannon's information theory Entropy as a measure of information. 4. Chatin/Kolmogorov algorithmic information theory Entropy in the language of Turing machines. But does entropy in the 4th sense completely dispace Shannon's definition? Can everything in Shannon theory be expressed in algorithmic terms? Equally, one might have asked if statistical mechanics could be explained in terms of information? Are the 2 kinds of entropy really the same? Or is this simply to confuse 2 quantities because they are defined by similar formulae? I'd be interested to know the world's views on this! -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!bnr.co.uk!uknet!ieunet!tcdcs!maths.tcd.ie!tim From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: Chaitin's Omega and QM (was: Bayes' theorem and QM) Message-ID: <1992Dec16.025906.21295@maths.tcd.ie> Date: 16 Dec 92 02:59:06 GMT References: <1gh518INN9eo@chnews.intel.com> <SRCTRAN.92Dec14122532@world.std.com> <COLUMBUS.92Dec14142145@strident.think.com> <1992Dec14.223229.22348@galois.mit.edu> Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland. Lines: 55