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In article <3978@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:

>>      Now  , back to current draw.  Again, Kirschoff's law states that
>>     at a junction I(in) = I(out)  .   Since  a  junction  is  usually
>>     considered  to  be  a  place  where three conducting elements are
>>     joined , consider a system of a transmitter 18.63  miles  distant
>>     from  two  receiving  antennas  .   At  resonance , the receiving
>>     antennas each ``drain'' 1/10  of  the  available  output  of  the
>>     transmiter. The rest of the transmitter's energy is ``wasted'' on
>>     heating  the atmosphere or distant intergalactic nebulas.  If one
>>     of the antennas is suddenly oriented away from  the  transmitter,
>>     the  same  mass  still  stands  between  the  transmitter and the
>>     distant galactic nebula and the atmosphere  beyond  the  antenna.
>>     The  entire  resonant  system is now detuned ,however, because of
>>     the effective removal of one of the inductive elements  from  the
>>     system.   If  the effect of this detuning took the time necessary
>>     for light  to  traverse  the  18.63  miles  to  register  at  the
>>     transmitter,  then  you  would have a violation of Kirchoff's law
>>     which  endures  for  .1  milliseconds  (  a  virtual  eternity  ,
>>     leptonically speaking).


C.R. Bass responds:

>     Another little hint, Kirchhoff's 'law' is not a universal 'law of
>     nature', especially when you redefine 'junction' as being spatially
>     distributed.  As well, we usually apply it to circuits, not
>     broadcast systems.


Ben Weiner says it another way:

>snarfy, you ding-dong

                Excuse me , I much prefer the term ``Raving Lunatic''-J.O.

......Continuing:


>                      you're saying that the current at the receiver
>is not equal to the current at the transmitter.  Right.  If you are
>going to consider the Xmttr-Rcvr pair (or triad) as a current loop
>of a circuit, you had better consider the circuit element that
>connects the transmitter and the receiver - the electromagnetic
>radiation (which fills a lot more space than just between the
>antennae, which is where the extra energy goes).  At any individual
>point between the two, no violation of Kirchoff's Law occurs -


    Is  that so? Darn! Let's see now ... we're counting electrons as they go
  whizzing by at some  ``individual  point''  between  the  transmitter  and
  receiver with our ``space ammeters'' ... I don't know about yours , but my
  electron count is zero!

    Isn't  that  because  at  any  individual  point  between the Xmitter and
  receiver there is only an  alternating  E  field  from  the  Xmitter  which
  INDUCES  a  current  flow thereby CREATING the B field in the receiver? The
  space  in  between is just empty, except for the air molecules. You seem to
  be saying that the extra VI * Time (joules) just  sort  of goes  into  this
  empty  space.  Hey  -  maybe it heats the air more, eh?  Ok , lets put  our
  system on the moon. Now what, Mr. Smarty ?


  You further state:

>The disturbance in the EM field back-propagates from the antenna with
>speed c.

  Oh really? Now who's making up new theories?  ``Back propagates''? On  what
  page  of  what  authoritative  volume  can  I  learn  more  about  ``Back''
  propagation?  And where does this field contain a magnetic component  other
  than  at the receiver or transmitter? If there's no current flow there's no
  amps and no magnetic field.