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Re: Instant communications

#703
From: Cameron Randale Bass
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1992 23:21
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In article <3993@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>In article <3989@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
>>>         At location A
>>>                   |     There is an Electromagnetic Field
>>>                   |     Disturbance  ( a  voltage  )
>>>                   |     that is  drained  at location B  _____
>>>                   |     by means of shunting the voltage      \
>>>                   |     with a resistance  , producing         \
>>>                   |     heat at location B . Heat appearing     \
>>>                   |     at B is a result of energy extracted    |
>>>                   |     from A .  Heats (watts) cannot result   |
>>>                   V     at B until Amps ( energy flow ) can be  V
>>>                         detected at A.
>>>
>>>                   *                                             *
>>>
>>>                   A                                             B
>
>     To which Dale Bass responds:
>
>>    Actually, I get heat when I shunt a voltage source with a resistor
>>    regardless of who is trying to radio me.
>
>     Gratified by this acknowledgement ,  snarfy adds:
>
>     And as far as I know ,so does everyone else!

     Humor did not seem to work, let's try analysis.  The statement
     "Heat (watts) cannot result at B until Amps (energy flow) can
     be detected at A" is false.  This faulty reasoning rules out
     finite transmission speed occurring in wires or any other media
     including a vacuum, a process that has been observed (to put it mildly).

     [stuff deleted, including irrelevant stuff in the reference]

>>>      Title of Article: Immediate Interstellar Communications
>>>                Author: Philip B. Wright
>>>           Publication: Speculations in Science and Technology
>>>                 Issue: August 1979 ,Vol 2 #3
>
>>    This is hardly Physical Review Letters.  The requirements for
>>    publication are somewhat less stringent to say the least.
>
>     When  you can't fault the article , or won't even bother to read it, why
>    not sneer at the publisher? If you think degrading  someone  else's  work
>    for  no  other  reason  than  your own snobbishness makes you look good ,
>    think again.

     I enjoy sneering, it works out many sets of facial muscles.
     However, my dear Mr. Ostrowski, I read the article long ago.  
     He seemed to have missed or ignored several vital points
     regarding signal transmission.  I repeat my objection that the 
     requirements for this journal are somewhat less stringent than
     mainline journals, and consequently verification of any concepts 
     promulgated therein requires more evidence.  

     Also, it has been 13 years since the paper appeared.  It was
     probably on the mind of the author prior to that.  Where are the
     results?
  
     Another hint, it will be very difficult for you to 'convince' us
     of the correctness of your presentation if you keep making fundamental
     errors in said presentation.

                                  dale bass

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C. R. Bass                                           crb7q@virginia.edu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, Virginia                            (804) 924-7926
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From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
Subject: Re: Instant communications
Message-ID: <1992Aug4.232104.12485@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Summary: Jus' because you say it, don't make it so.
Keywords: This has got to be a put-on ...
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