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Article #720Re: SSC magnets - how?
From: SCOTT I CHASE
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 19:50
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 19:50
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In article <8400007@trsvax>, pauls@trsvax.tandy.com writes... > >AnotherSSC question: > >1) How many magnets are used? Thousands of long (17-meter) dipoles and thousands of focussing quadrapoles. A smaller number (many hundreds?) of correcting magnets (sexapoles), and of course two monster solenoids for the two big detectors, and a variety of specialty magnets such as final-focus magnets and extractors. > >2) In relative terms, how do they compare to other magnets in use today? > They are very high field (roughly 6 Tesla), very uniform and very large. Nothing like them has ever been built before. >3) What is MBTF of a magnet today (FermiLab)? > Don't know the specs of the Tevatron magnets. Sorry. >4) How many 'up days' (up hours??) does the average collider have today? > Now there's a loaded question if I ever heard one. It very much depends on the specific machine. CERN, for example, has a reputation (well deserved) for excellence. When the SPS MCR (main control room) tells you that you will get beam at 9 am on April 6, then you don't have it at 8:59, and you will have it by 9:01. U.S. machines are often not so good. I have never had a run at the Bevalac with the machine actually running more than 50% of the promised time. Magnets trip off, power supplies blow up, control electronics fail, safety-interlocks trip at random, power generators fail, etc. The AGS (Brookhaven) has similar problems especially in the warmer months when everything starts to overheat. These are complicated machines, and are difficult to keep running. In the end you get the beam you need, but it's always an adventure. In addition to down-time during your supposed beam-time on-target, the typical machine has a maintainance schedule (one day a week down for repairs, for example), and machine development time which can be large blocks of time, such as weeks or months. The Bevalac shuts down for a few months every summer, partly because of the cost of electricity in the summer months, but also to do needed repair. In addition, a few days every couple a weeks are scheduled for routine testing of new beam-tunes, etc. I don't remember exactly, but the Bevalac has something like 2500 hours of scheduled running each year. Roughly half of that is for medical treatment of cancer patients and others. The rest goes to nuclear science experiments. At more modern machines such as the Tevatron, almost all of the beam-time will go to the high-energy experimentalists. >5) If a SSC magnet goes fubar, is the whole thing down? Yup. Bummer. But the magnets will be very reliable according to the experts. -Scott
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