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Article #7910Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Coriolis effect is going to work (JP)
From: Dan Bloomquist
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:24
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:24
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daestrom wrote: > > If I understand your experiment, you align the shaft parallel to the > earth's at the north pole and then spin up the rotor (let's say same > direction as the earth for argument's sake). The reaction force of the > spin motor will have slowed the earth a tiny amount. But the > interesting part is if we push the top of the shaft to the right it will > precess away from us and we can use this to turn the rotor upside down. > Now, by simply applying a small torque to the right of the shaft, we > have changed the direction of the rotor's momentum by 180 degrees. > > If we can show that the torque impulse *does* impart 2Lrotor1 momentum > to the planet, then your issue of spinning up / inverting and braking > the rotor is closed. I wish I had a gyro to test. As I recall, with one axis of freedom it takes an initial impulse to start the swing and an equal but opposite impulse to stop the movement. So, there is no net torque to account for the 'potential' phenomena. The precession torque to start and stop will be in the same direction but orthonormal to both the other torques!? There must be someone on sci.physics that can explain this. Best, Dan.
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