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Article #7985Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Coriolis effect is going to work (JP)
From: dkelvey
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:28
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:28
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On Feb 29, 12:05 pm, Anthony Matonak <anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote: > dkel...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Feb 28, 6:34 pm, janpa...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Feb 29, 7:18 am, "dkel...@hotmail.com" <dkel...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> ... > >>> A little physics will show how this doesn't work. > >>> The problem is that the gear box does apply a force. This would cause > >>> the flywheel > >>> to precess to a point that is would no longer apply force to the > >>> gearbox( IOW align > >>> to the polar axis ). > ... > > Such responses are made without actual physical law. Conservation of > > momentum > > has never been broken by any experiment. Why do you think this > > flywheel trick will break it, > > It's not that it wouldn't work in a way. It's that it wouldn't work > very well, very long or provide any power to speak of. > > Think of the gearing required to go from 1 revolution per day to > whatever is required for your electrical generation. A typical > generator works at thousands of revolutions per minute. Even if > your generator works as slow as 100 rpm, you're looking at a > gear ratio of 144,000/1. Friction in the gears would probably > consume all your power. > > Think of the scale of such a device. You would need something the > size of a mountain, spinning, to generate anything significant. > > Taking this to the extreme, you're slowing down the rotation of > the Earth to power the device. What if everyone did this? If you > thought global warming was bad, think of global slowing! > > Anthony Hi Anthony It isn't a matter of even needing a large gear ratio. The force and motion of a flywheel are at 90 degees. You push this way and it moves that way. The only way to get it to work is the allow the flywheel to change angle ( remember vectors at 90 degrees when multiplied together create a 0 length vector = 0 power ). As the flywheel changes angles, it will precess towards the location that its axis is lined up with north and south. End of game. As for slowing the earth, when he spins the gyroscope up, it will change the earths rotation slightly but monentum will still be conserved. Regardless when the flywheel stops, it will be restored. If the flywheel is moved at 90 degrees, it will add or subtract to balance the original change. This is the law, we can't change it. The only way to permanently change the earth rotation would be to spin a flywheel up and then send it off into outer space. The total momentum of the flywheel and earth still doesn't change, it is just that we will never see the flywheel again. Anything we do on the earth that stays on the earth doesn't change the total momentum. The moon is slowly slowing down the earth but the total momentum of the earth moon system doesn't change. In the case of the moon/earth, the moon is moving to a higher orbit. Dwight
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