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Article #7993Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Coriolis effect is going to work (JP)
From: janpajak
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:34
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:34
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On Feb 29, 7:18 am, "dkel...@hotmail.com" <dkel...@hotmail.com> wrote: ... > Hi > A little physics will show how this doesn't work. > First, it would be true that a flywheel with no force on it would > continue to point > in a constant direction. > The problem is that the gear box does apply a force. This would cause > the flywheel > to precess to a point that is would no longer apply force to the > gearbox( IOW align > to the polar axis ). > Another thought experiment would show that such a machine would not > work > because the earth/flywheel system would have to maintain a constant > moment > of rotational inertia. To power the gear box would require removing > inertia > from the rotation of the earth. It would be absorbed into the flywheel > system > as motion of some sort. Of course that motion would be to precess > until it no longer > had a force on it. > Oh well, back to the drawing board. > Dwight ... "Very interesting Little Boy, but it never will work" - is a phrase which scientists since the medieval times keep repeating about every new idea. It was stated about the "jet engine", about "flying machines", "steel boats", etc. - quotes can be multiplied infinitively. I personally have no proper conditions to build anything - and never expect to have them. However, every accomplishement is started with an idea. The accomplishemnt of actual building perpetual motion starts from thye strong believe that it can be build and from an idea how to build it. And the flywheel that perpetually rotates on principles of the Coriolis effect is just such an idea. It is NOT idea that would be very useful technically, but it has a huge psychological significance. After all, it breaks through the prejudice imposed on common people by close-minded scientists (these prejudices state that the perpetual motion cannot be build). The flywheel described here shown that YES, it can be build and it will rotate perpetually after one completes it. So even that myself I have no conditions to build one, with this thread I try to convince someone to have a try. To my best knowledge and engineering experience it definitely is going to work. In Frombork (Poland) there is a tower in which the medieval astronomer, Mikolaj Kopernik, used to work. In this tower a perpetual pendulum does work. Everyone who visits it can see this pendulum working. The pendulum is swining, bot also rotating. Although there is an energy supply to make it swing, NOT energy is supplied to make it rotate. But it rotates perpetually, as the wheel described here, means by 15 degrees each hour and by 1 revolution per each day. So this pendulum is actually a version of the flywheel described here. And it really does works. Thus it also proves that the flywheel described here is going to work. Only that someone needs to undertake the effort to actually build it. I have no condition to build it, but I hope that someone else will. When finally it is build, it will cause a revolution in human thinking. It will prove wrong all scientists who claimed that the perpetual motion cannot be build, including all these "mud throwers" who spit at the idea of the wheel described here. I thinik that it is NO point to write that (and why) the flywheel is NOT going to work, because almost all scientists on our planet keep yelling this for centuries. Whet we should discuss here, is why YES, it it going to work, and how to build one in a simplest and most effective manner. With the totaliztic salute, Jan Pajak P.S. To these who are tirred of spitters who throw mud at good ideas, I recommend the old thread http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f43b7ee2d9d8e837/ecabc492dd893a64#ecabc492dd893a64
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