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Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Coriolis effect is going to work (JP)

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From: dkelvey
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:18
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On Feb 27, 7:38 pm, janpa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Our scientists are so succesful in telling us that perpetual motion
> generators cannot be build, that we are scared to even try to build
> one. So it took a UFOnaut to tell us how to build a simplest
> mechanical perpetual motion generator. This alien-technology generator
> is described (in the Polish language) at the threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/pl.sci.fizyka/browse_thread/thread/6f0...
> .
>
> The principle of this generator is based on the fact that the
> "Coriolis effect" keeps a flywheel motionless in relation to the solar
> system, if the axis of rotation of this flywheel is parallel to the
> axis of the Earth's rotation. Thus such a flywheel rotates in
> relationship to the surface of the Earth once per day. If it is
> connected with an electricity generator via a gearbox, it also is able
> to generate electrical energy, as its torgue is equal to the inertia
> moment of the flywheel minus the friction on the flywheel's bearings.
>
> This mechanical perpetual motion generator is described in item #F4.1
> of the newest update of the web page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm" dated 27
> February 2007, or later. (Old updates of this web page do NOT have the
> description of this particular perpetual motion generator.) The web
> page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm" should be available on following web
> sites (unless these sites are sabotaged in the meantime):
>
> http://bible.webng.com/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://energy.atspace.org/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://evidence.ueuo.com/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://evil.thefreehost.biz/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://fruit.sitesled.com/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://fruit.xphost.org/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://god.ez-sites.ws/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://karma.freewebpages.org/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://memorial.awardspace.info/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://newzealand.myfreewebs.net/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://nirvana.scienceontheweb.net/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://pigs.freehyperspace.com/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://parasitism.about.tc/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://parasitism.xphost.org/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://rubik.hits.io/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://tornado.99k.org/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://users3.nofeehost.com/devils/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htmhttp://wszewilki.greatnow.com/wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm
>
> With the totaliztic salute,
> Jan Pajak


Hi
 A little physics will show how this doesn't work.
 First, it would be true that a flywheel with no force on it would
continue to point
in a constant direction.
 The problem is that the gear box does apply a force. This would cause
the flywheel
to precess to a point that is would no longer apply force to the
gearbox( IOW align
to the polar axis ).
 Another thought experiment would show that such a machine would not
work
because the earth/flywheel system would have to maintain a constant
moment
of rotational inertia. To power the gear box would require removing
inertia
from the rotation of the earth. It would be absorbed into the flywheel
system
as motion of some sort. Of course that motion would be to precess
until it no longer
had a force on it.
 Oh well, back to the drawing board.
Dwight
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Subject: Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Coriolis 
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