Re: What happens when solar power is cheaper than grid power?

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From: Graham Cooper
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:04

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> > "The H2 engine gives off WATER VAPOUR for exhaust!  It's clean!"
>
> True statement!
>
> As I said.. even it was an issue, it just raises the question whether
> it is necessary to supply O2 Tanks on top of H2.
>
> Herc

I think Rotary Engines are more suitable for H2, I heard the fuel
intake is separate to the combustion section so it can handle higher
temperatures.

but H2 is the Hard Problem!  It's not TOO HARD - 2H.  It's H2!   :o|

 *****

The Easy Problem is 80% of car usage is <50km at 60km/hour with one
person load.

If people had short range city cars (ELECTRIC) and H2 for the highway
and towing, then Electric is ideal for a city environment!

The problem is "competition", the govt. has to level the field.  When
Volvo brought out cars 30% heavier than the norm they fared better in
front on crashes!  10G impact if it slows you down, the smaller car
suffers 30G impact going from forward to backward in the same time
frame.

With specialised cars for short range in cities, and H2 for highways,
you could abandon the 1 tonne 4WD style for Electrics, go for a Dune
Buggy style with a compact perspex shell.   Keeps pollution out of the
city too!

Herc

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