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Surfer wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 10:01:46 +1100, Oy rool out a carbon tax
> <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> Surfer wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:05:39 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> That the surface of the Earth has warmed over the last several
>>>>> decades is a fact supported by many independent sources . . .
>>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, there is NO GOOD EVIDENCE that the warming was caused by 
>>>> humans.
>>>>
>>> I expect it will be difficult to prove that beyond doubt.  However,
>>> many years ago increasing levels of CO2 were predicted to cause
>>> warming, and since then warming has occurred and is continuing to
>>> occur.
>> The AGWers were initially blessed with the fortune of increasing
>> temperatures to support (not prove) their hypothesis. Since that time
>> they have been at great pains to cling to their mantra, as temperatures
>> fail to follow the cataclysmic trajectory their "science" predicts.
>>
> 
> On the contrary:
> 
> - Arctic sea ice extent has continued to decrease
> http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png
> 
> - Antarctic mass continues to decrease
> http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html
> 
> - Global sea level has continued to rise
> http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_ib_ns_global.jpg 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png
> 
> -Troposphere temperature remains consistent with an upward trend line
> http://pielkeclimatesci.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/0710_graf.jpg?w=500&h=183
> 
> 
> In Addition:
> 
> -- The global ground weather station network shows warming:
> 
> These data are from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies
> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
> The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Global%20Mean%20Temp.jpg
> 
> These data come from the UK's Hadley Centre:
> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3gl.txt
> The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadCRUT3gl.jpg
> 
> -- The Sea Surface Temperature continues to rise
> 
> Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface
> temperatures from 1850 to 2009.  Please see:
> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadsst2gl.txt
> The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg
> 
> -- Two balloon records show this same surface level warming:
> http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ratpac/index.php
> http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ratpac/index.php?name=3Dratpac-a
> 
> The data are found in the "year" and "surf" columns of the "GLOBE"
> section of this file:
> http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ratpac/ratpac-a/RATPAC-A-annual-levels.txt
> 
> These very robust global yearly mean ground data are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RATPAC-A-Balloon.jpg
> 
> http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/temp/angell/angell.html
> http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ftp/trends/temp/angell/global.dat
> 
> These global yearly mean ground data are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Angell-Balloon.jpg
> 
> -- The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
> shows that the air near the surface is warming too.
> 
> For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_temperature_measurements
> 
> The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the
> University of Alabama at Huntsville.
> http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.3
> The global data are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg
> 
> The data from 82.5N to 70S are graphed here:
> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RSS-MSU.jpg
> 
> -- The glacier retreat record:
> http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3046/
> http://nsidc.org/sotc/glacier_balance.html
> http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/isamount.pdf
> 
> -- The bore hole records:
> http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/huang.html
> http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/pollack.html

No. Not "on the contrary". If that were the case, why would Kevin
Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center
for Atmospheric Research, say to Michael Mann, the director of the Earth
System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University:

"The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment
and it is a travesty that we can't".

Do you think that you know better than these eminant theologians... er,
experts, in the field. A bunch of links to articles carries no weight here.

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