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Re: Who's 'In Climate Denial, Again'? The New York Times

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From: Androcles
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:23
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"Surfer" <no@spam.net> wrote in message 
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| On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 10:01:46 +1100, Oy rool out a carbon tax
| <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote:
|
| >Surfer wrote:
| >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:05:39 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com>
| >> wrote:
| >>
| >>>> That the surface of the Earth has warmed over the last several
| >>>> decades is a fact supported by many independent sources . . .
| >>>>
| >>> Unfortunately, there is NO GOOD EVIDENCE that the warming was caused 
by
| >>> humans.
| >>>
| >> I expect it will be difficult to prove that beyond doubt.  However,
| >> many years ago increasing levels of CO2 were predicted to cause
| >> warming, and since then warming has occurred and is continuing to
| >> occur.
| >
| >The AGWers were initially blessed with the fortune of increasing
| >temperatures to support (not prove) their hypothesis. Since that time
| >they have been at great pains to cling to their mantra, as temperatures
| >fail to follow the cataclysmic trajectory their "science" predicts.
| >
|
| On the contrary:
|
| - Arctic sea ice extent has continued to decrease
| http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png
|
| - Antarctic mass continues to decrease
| 
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html
|
| - Global sea level has continued to rise
| http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_ib_ns_global.jpg
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png
|
| -Troposphere temperature remains consistent with an upward trend line
| 
http://pielkeclimatesci.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/0710_graf.jpg?w=500&h=183
|
|
| In Addition:
|
| -- The global ground weather station network shows warming:
|
| These data are from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies
| http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
| http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
| The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Global%20Mean%20Temp.jpg
|
| These data come from the UK's Hadley Centre:
| http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
| http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3gl.txt
| The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadCRUT3gl.jpg
|
| -- The Sea Surface Temperature continues to rise
|
| Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface
| temperatures from 1850 to 2009.  Please see:
| http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
| http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadsst2gl.txt
| The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg
|
| -- Two balloon records show this same surface level warming:
| http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ratpac/index.php
| http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ratpac/index.php?name=3Dratpac-a
|
| The data are found in the "year" and "surf" columns of the "GLOBE"
| section of this file:
| 
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ratpac/ratpac-a/RATPAC-A-annual-levels.txt
|
| These very robust global yearly mean ground data are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RATPAC-A-Balloon.jpg
|
| http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/temp/angell/angell.html
| http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ftp/trends/temp/angell/global.dat
|
| These global yearly mean ground data are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Angell-Balloon.jpg
|
| -- The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
| shows that the air near the surface is warming too.
|
| For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_temperature_measurements
|
| The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the
| University of Alabama at Huntsville.
| http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.3
| The global data are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg
|
| The data from 82.5N to 70S are graphed here:
| http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RSS-MSU.jpg
|
| -- The glacier retreat record:
| http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3046/
| http://nsidc.org/sotc/glacier_balance.html
| http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/isamount.pdf
|
| -- The bore hole records:
| http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/huang.html
| http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/pollack.html
|
|
My bathroom tap leaks, I need to call a plumber. Obviously it was
caused by CO2. Here's the proof:

 These data come from the UK's Hadley Centre:
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3gl.txt
The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadCRUT3gl.jpg

-- The Sea Surface Temperature continues to rise

Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface
temperatures from 1850 to 2009.  Please see:
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadsst2gl.txt
The yearly means of these data are graphed here:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg

-- Two balloon records show this same surface level warming:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ratpac/index.php
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ratpac/index.php?name=3Dratpac-a

The data are found in the "year" and "surf" columns of the "GLOBE"
section of this file:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ratpac/ratpac-a/RATPAC-A-annual-levels.txt

These very robust global yearly mean ground data are graphed here:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RATPAC-A-Balloon.jpg

http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/temp/angell/angell.html
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ftp/trends/temp/angell/global.dat

These global yearly mean ground data are graphed here:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Angell-Balloon.jpg

-- The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming too.

For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_temperature_measurements

The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the
University of Alabama at Huntsville.
http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.3
The global data are graphed here:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg

The data from 82.5N to 70S are graphed here:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RSS-MSU.jpg

-- The glacier retreat record:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3046/
http://nsidc.org/sotc/glacier_balance.html
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/isamount.pdf

-- The bore hole records:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/huang.html
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/pollack.html

Who will pay my plumber, you cretin?
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