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In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.970423174927.14445K-100000@ruunat.fys.ruu.nl>, Dries 
van Oosten <dvoosten@fys.ruu.nl> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Robert L. Hutton wrote:
>
>> Stephan A. Manchir wrote:
>> > 
>> > Dries van Oosten <dvoosten@fys.ruu.nl> wrote, well, typed, actually
>> > (unless they have a newton or other pen based computer, but that's not
>> > important right now, oh, or voice recognition):
>> > 
>> > >On 17 Apr 1997, Kevin Anthony Scaldeferri wrote:
>> > 
>> > As I understand it, If you want to use the whole "mass increases"
>> > thing, you have to differientiate between inertial and gravitational
>> > mass (even tho every thing we know of has equal amounts of each, and
>> > prolly everything does). Otherwise, the explanation of just having the
>> > 
>> > momentum increase is good enough. it's all just how you look at it.
>> > That whole mass increase thing always bothered me too, btw. But not
>> > nearly as much as people who state that warp drive works by lessening
>> > a ships mass. Gah! An infinite amount of 1/2 of something is still
>> > just as infinite as a whole something. And let's not even get into if
>> > 9.999... = 10. Remember that? :)
>> > 
>> > >> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.970417182445.29917B-100000@ruunat.fys.ruu.nl>,
>> > >> Dries van Oosten  <dvoosten@fys.ruu.nl> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >doesn't change. If it would, what you say would have to be true and
> what
>> > >> >you say can't be true since this would mean that light (moving at c)
> would
>> > >> >see all masses infinitely large. This would mean that all masses would
>> > >> >"attract" light with the same strength. This is absurd. Every object
> would
>> > >> >be a black hole. Correct me if I make a mistake here, but this is how I
>> > >> >see it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Just because two quantities are infinite doesn't mean they are equal.
>> > >> If you look at the ratio of the observed masses as the observer's
>> > >> velocity is taken to c, it will be different from 1.
>> > 
>> > >This is not what I meant. What I meant is that if light sees all mass as
>> > >infinite, everything would be a black hole.
>> > 
>> > "There is an art, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
>> >  in learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss"
>> >  - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>> > sam14@po.cwru.edu              http://k2.scl.cwru.edu/~sam14
>> 
>> What you have here is light seeing an infinitely large mass 
>> infinitessimally close to it attracting it within an infinitessimal 
>> period of time.  Just as lim((1 + 1/n)^n) as n goes to infinity does not 
>> equal zero or infinity (in fact, it equals 2.71828182....), neither 
>> (necessarily) does the force acting on light.
>
>Normally I would agree with you, but the problem with black holes is that
>once you get in, you don't get out (not counting tunneling effect and that
>kinda stuff). So when you pass an object of infinite mass at an
>infinitessimally close range, you'll spend the rest of your life and
>beyond falling down the gravity well.  
>
>> 
>> Robert Hutton
>> 
>> 
>
>
>Dries van Oosten
>
>Eat any good books lately?
>                           

You guys are confused by the �reference FRAME s� problems.

A similar question is: If a meteoroid having mass m and velocity v, hits on 
Earth having mass M. What is the amount of kinetic energy caused by this 
collision?

According to meteoroid�s frame, the answer is 1/2 Mv ^ 2. But, this is a crazy 
amount and obvious false! 
The true answer should be about 1/2 mv ^ 2, based on Earth FRAME centered at 
Earth�s center. Every body agrees? 

The reference FRAME is not chosen by free-will of any individual. It is 
decided by the Boss! Who is the Boss on Earth? The Earth is the Boss around 
here, so the frame is at its center. 

For the photons traveling with c-speed are only infinitesimal travelers that 
have no right to decide the FRAME. So, photons have no right to say everybody 
else is black holes based on its individual frame.

Who is the Boss? When dealing with the matter near Earth, the Earth is the 
Boss who decide the Frame. When dealing with the matter concerning Solar 
system, the Sun is the Boss. When with Milky Way problems, the center of Milky 
Way is the Boss. So are that for Clusters of galaxies and superclusters.

When a problem influenced by two or more Bosses, compromised solutions are 
required!

So, when we are dealing with problems of galaxies, superclusters, even the 
whole universe, we need to know where is the center of the FRAME of universe. 
It is outside the universe, because whoever claims that there is a center 
inside the universe is false! The center is located at the Big Bang Origin 
where time=0.

Please check out my article page 1-4 and then you should have no more problem! 
If you still have any, please mail me. 


Jack z.c. Jiang
Email me at jiang400@themall.net
Free article: "New Model of Universe" is in 
http://www.themall.net/~neocosmo/