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Article #8302Re: A non-tachyon, still-follows-Einsten's-rules FTL idea ... PLEASE comment on it!!!
From: Malcolm McMahon
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 00:00
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On Tue, 01 Apr 1997 23:46:05 -0500, Chris Wagner <wagnerc@ucunix.san.uc.edu> wrote: >James Grady Ward wrote: >> >> Chris Wagner wrote: >> > >> > You're saying that the gravity drive will propel you faster than c. For >> > this to be so, the gravity would have to propogate infront of the ship >> > faster than c or else it would be overtaken by the ship itself! >> > ..Unless >> > you want to sell the idea that gravity moves faster than c... >> >> well if you want singualrities to exist, you have to allow that gravity >> can "propagate" faster than c. the only way the gravity well of a >> singularity can be formed in a finite time is if at some point the >> rate at which space is being bent( and thus gravity increasing) is >> infinite. > >An interesting question. However, the flaw in your argument is that no >matter *how* fast the gravity well can form it can *never* get to >infinity >unless it goes infinitly fast. Actually the theory, as I understand it, is that gravity _doesn't_ escpape from the event horizon. Rather the external gravitational field is "frozen" in the state it occupied at the instant the event horizon formed, basically because there is infinite time dilation at the horizon so the field there cannot change. ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- I was born weird: This terrible | Like Pavlov's dogs we are trained compulsion to behave normally is | to salivate at the sound of the the result of childhood trauma. | liberty bell. ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Malcolm
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc19f,170da24f95ceef31 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc19f,public X-Google-Thread: 10be1b,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10be1b,public X-Google-Thread: 101d03,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid101d03,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,559b8de9eb7ab374 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 107568,170da24f95ceef31 X-Google-Attributes: gid107568,public X-Google-Thread: 107319,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid107319,public X-Google-Thread: 10dd53,c2d61fdc569fd85e X-Google-Attributes: gid10dd53,public X-Google-Thread: 10e8c9,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e8c9,public From: malcolm@pigsty.demon.co.uk (Malcolm McMahon) Subject: Re: A non-tachyon, still-follows-Einsten's-rules FTL idea ... PLEASE comment on it!!! Date: 1997/04/02 Message-ID: <3347afc5.10805594@news.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 230198240 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pigsty.demon.co.uk References: <332BD9F9.5E4C@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <5gi4ta$7mg1@chinook.generation.net> <332CD474.A96@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <332DAC44.6318@hotmail.com> <5gnvii$t00$4@news1.sympatico.ca> <332F8EA9.336F@flash.net> <Pine.OSF.3.95.970319 <5gsv2t$3qv@news.inforamp.net> <33322DC8.5FD1@eos.ncsu.edu> <5gvhqu$po$3@news1.sympatico.ca> <3334F3CD.312B@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <5h412t$br4$6@news1.sympatico.ca> <333F2801.1221@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <33404763.26C9@eos.ncsu.edu> <3341E48D.5607@ucunix.san.uc.edu> Newsgroups: sci.physics,rec.arts.startrek.tech,alt.startrek,alt.startrek.borg,aus.sf.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.voyager,alt.tv.star-trek.ds9