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Re: zero dimensional particles with mass

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From: Chris Wagner
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:00
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James Grady Ward wrote:
> 
> Chris Wagner wrote:
> > The only reason they bounce is the electro repulsive force of their E
> > fields.  I explain below my thoughts on this.
> 
> there actually is a little more to it that just the charges repeling
> each other.  electrons just do not overlap each other unless you have
> extreme amounts of pressure forcing them together.  this is called
> the pali(sp) exclusion principle.  i am not certain if two electrons
> can actually hit each other outside of a stars core.

Depends on what you consider a "hit".  The electrons in my fingers are 
"hitting" the electrons in my keyboard right now.  See, there is no
definate "surface" to an electron.  All there is to prevent "contact" 
is the electric field.  The Pauli Exclusion principle is an expression
of this fact.

> > will absorb a photon.  In order to be absorbed the photon has to
> > "hit" the electron.  A hit can be considered a crossing of the event
> > horizon of the electron.  So just like a normal black hole, the photon
> > can't make the turn and plunks right down into the gravity well.  This
> > energy shows up as increased mass of the electron, which we do see.
> > (equating KE to mass)  This also explains anti particle annihilation.
> > When an electron and positron collide their E fields cancel out and
> > the singularity is allowed to evaporate.  We all know about
> > singularity evaporation...  Boom!
> 
> but how do you explain an electron emiting photons then?  or
> are you suggesting that this miniture singularity(that sounds
> silly to say when you think about it....) can allow energy to
> escape?

Yes, energy can spontaneously escape the singularity if the *total*
system energy decreases.  The electron is much happier to be in a lower
orbital than to have an increased mass.  If this were not so then 
black holes would never evaporate and quantum torpedoes wouldn't work 
on the Borg.  There is a happy medium between a particle's mass and 
how much space time likes to be bent.  This explains why electrons
go into lower orbitals at all.  Because gravity wells like to be a certain
size.  When they exceed that size they will do whatever it takes to
become comfortably numb once again.  For electrons this means emitting
a photon and dropping into a lower orbital and for a black hole it means
evaporating.

> of course fun question, what happens if a positron is formed
> inside a netron star and it is pressed into an electron?  electrons
> and protons simply form neutrons when this happens, but would
> positrons and electrons form somekind of particle?

They would annihilate and the energy in their singularities would 
evaporate in the form of an energetic gamma ray.

> > electrons repel each other.  This is a little harder to apply to
> > uncharged particles.  I'm not sure what they would have to repel other
> > like particles.
> 
> ever heard of the weak and strong nuclear forces:)  i forget exactly
> what each does, but one of them is responsible for how neutrons behave.
> and the other determines when atoms decay radioactivly i think.

The only truly uncharged particle is the neutrino.  Neutrons etc are made
up of smaller charged particles.  Neutrinos are stange little buggers.
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From: Chris Wagner <wagnerc@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
Subject: Re: zero dimensional particles with mass
Date: 1997/03/31
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