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zero dimensional particles with mass

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From: Chris Wagner
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 00:00
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:11:45 -0500, Brian Cieszynski <triumph1@cris.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Actually we're already at that _point_ now (pun intended). It's beginning
> to look like there is nothing smaller than quarks and leptons. Quarks are
> the class of particles that make up protons and neutrons. Leptons are the
> class of particles which we normally call electrons and neutrinos.
> 
> They've been trying to find the smallest size of these particles by
> bouncing them off of each other. The more energy you put into the
> projectiles, the harder it's going to hit, and the closer it's going to get
> to its centre. So far, they've been increasing and increasing the energy
> against these particles and still haven't found a limit to how close they
> can get. This means that it looks like quarks and leptons are perfect
> mathematical points, zero-dimensional. You can't get much smaller than
> absolute zero.

The only reason they bounce is the electro repulsive force of their E
fields.  I explain below my thoughts on this.

> Now, we may be accustomed to think of an electron as just a little ball
> whirling around a nucleus like a planet orbits a star. But, that's just a
> convenient portrayal. Can you imagine it, these things have mass, but no
> volume?!? Boggles the mind, doesn't it? But that's just something we have
> to get used to in Quantum physics.

It seems perfectly logical to me...  Consider this analogy:  What is 
the volume of a black hole?  It is a quantum singularity, it has
*zero* volume.  But its *effective* volume is the radius of its
event horizon.  This very intuitivly transfers to all subatomic
particles.  They can all be thought of as quantum singularities of
*fixed* mass.  Therefore they don't blow up in mass and size like
a black hole.  An electron can be thought of as a "conflux of 
negative electric field potential bound by an infinite distortion
in the space time continuum."  This nicely explains why an electron
will absorb a photon.  In order to be absorbed the photon has to
"hit" the electron.  A hit can be considered a crossing of the event
horizon of the electron.  So just like a normal black hole, the photon
can't make the turn and plunks right down into the gravity well.  This
energy shows up as increased mass of the electron, which we do see. 
(equating KE to mass)  This also explains anti particle annihilation.
When an electron and positron collide their E fields cancel out and 
the singularity is allowed to evaporate.  We all know about 
singularity evaporation...  Boom!

Volume is a very subjective thing.  The vast majority of space is in
fact
empty.  The free space in atoms between the electrons and the nucleus
is enormous.  We literally breath vacuum every day!  The only thing
that gives particles substance is the electro forces they have.  eg 
electrons repel each other.  This is a little harder to apply to 
uncharged particles.  I'm not sure what they would have to repel other
like particles.
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From: Chris Wagner <wagnerc@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
Subject: zero dimensional particles with mass
Date: 1997/03/23
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