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Article #8515Re: evolution?(please read)
From: Dr. David Rosen
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:00
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> > John: > How do you define equilibrium? > Tim > > I am pretty sure that John, and most scientists here, use the thermodynamic definition of equilibrium. That is, there can never be any transfer of energy, in the form of either heat or work, between the two systems at equilibrium, not can a small perturbation start such a transfer. The total entropy in the two systems can't increase. To quantitatively spell it out, assume two systems. They are the matter comprising a living thing, and its immediate environment. 1) There can not be any transfer of heat, sometimes called entropy, between two systems. At equilibrium, the two systems must have the same temperature by definition. If the living thing is at a different temperature as its surroundings, it is not at equilibrium. False for most living mammals, sometimes true for living cold blooded animals. A small change in temperature can not cause this system to start transfering energy. Let the transfer of heat be dQ. E.G., Living things don't really follow this rule while alive. All of them, while active, are at a different temperature than their surroundings including "cold blooded" animals. And all respond to changes in temperature. They give off energy as heat. 2) Work is energy transfered by noticeable changes in a systems form or composition, other than temperature. E.G., Living things obviouslydon't follow this, either. They move, and change the composition of everything they eat. They give off energy as work. 3) At equilibrium, the entropy of a system can't change. The change in entropy is dS = dQ/T. Living things don't obey this, either. Animals eat plants to decrease entropy, but make the plants increase entropy (by respiration). Plants decrease entropy by growing, but increase the entropy of sunlight by absorbing it. There is never a decrease in entropy. When a plant absorbs sunlight, the sunlight is changed to a higher entropy (increase entropy) and turns the carbon dioxide into plant (decrease entropy). Because the temperature of the sun is high, heat energy from sunlight has a VERY low entropy. Because a plant or animal is at a low temperature, the same amount of heat energy in a living thing has a very high entropy. The total entropy: dQ(sunlight to infrared light)/T + dQ(carbon dioxide to plant)/T > 0. Living things increase entropy either by breaking down plant material or by turning sunlight into lower temperature heat. I have plugged in numbers, and they work.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106bde,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid106bde,public X-Google-Thread: 10a7a9,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a7a9,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 10b363,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b363,public From: "Dr. David Rosen" <drosen@acoma.arl.mil> Subject: Re: evolution?(please read) Date: 1997/05/05 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505102741.25987A-100000@acoma.arl.mil> X-Deja-AN: 239517288 Sender: news@arl.mil (News Administration ) References: <862304355.15801@dejanews.com> <bgrafspty2.fsf@janus.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> <5k8kbo$qb@charity.ucr.edu> <3369749D.3D21@midusa.net> To: "T. Haug" <tjhaug@midusa.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Lab (ARL), APG, MD. Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.origins,bionet.biophysics,bionet.molbio.evolution