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david ford (dford3@gl.umbc.edu) wrote:
: On 5 May 1997, Steve Guerke wrote:
: jgardner@ringer.cs.utsa.edu says...
: Paul J. Gans wrote:

: > >: I do believe that the reference to evolution above was a
: > >: reference to the FACT of evolution, not to a particular
: > >: theory of how it occured.
: > >
: > >:      ------ Paul J. Gans  [gans@scholar.chem.nyu.edu]
: > >
: > >        No FACT of evolution where one species has led
: > >to another.  Change within species to an extremely limited
: > >degree yes, but nothing that would justify the _miraclulous_
: > >transformation of one species into another.
: > 
: > given enough time, all those little changes, which you allow, add up to big 
: > changes.  You seem to imply that evolution says that a dog gives birth to a 
: > cat, or a dinosaour gives birth to a bird.  this would in fact be a disproof of 
: > evolution.  the physicists (astronomers) and geologists assure us that there 
: > has in fact been enough time for lots of little changes to mount up to big 
: > changes (aka: speciation and evolution).

: Enough time, in fact, for a bear population to become a whale population. 
: Here's the evidence, which I'm sure any reputable geneticist would agree
: is entirely possible and believable.  Creationists that refuse to believe
: the fact of evolution, wake up!!!!!  Evolution is real, and can happen as
: described in the following remark.  Believe it!!!!!!! 

: "In North America the black bear was seen by Hearne swimming for hours
: with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water.
: Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant,
: and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I
: can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural
: selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with
: larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a
: whale."-_On the Origin of Species_ (1859), original edition, pg. 184. 

	So I suppose that legs and feet ceased to be useful to the
animal and he stopped using them.  Maybe.  Now front paws also 
proved of no use to the animal and he stopped using them too.  Meanwhile
his two nostrils turned to one and migrated to the top of his head.
All the while providing advantage along with maintaining viability
of the bear? 


--
    John Gardner