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Article #8591Re: Information per organism
From: Mountain Man
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 00:00
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toms@kaylor.ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) wrote:
>: In another thread here
>: John Collier (pljdc@alinga.newcastle.edu.au) noted:
>
>: >Brillouin, _Science and Information Theory, 2nd edition_, Academic
>: >Press: 1962, uses the term "bound information" to refer to information
>: >that is considered with respect to the physical complexions of the
>: >system. He uses "free information" to refer to the mathematical
>: >concept that does not respect considerations of physical embodiment,
>: >as used in Shannon theory.
>:
>: This seems like a useful distinction; information on the hoof vs.
>: information in a plastic wrap. (No pejorative on the latter, simply
>: driven by the analogy)
>:
>: If our *additional information* is "on the hoof" then the question is, how
>: big is the corral, how do we draw the boundary conditions to avoid
>: including the entire solar system or more? I believe someone has alluded
>: to this question.
>
>I find this impossible to understand. All "information" needs a physical
>substrate (eg light pulses, CD ROM...) and so "Free information" seems
>impossible.
>
> Tom Schneider http://www-lmmb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/
Consider the gravitational "substrate" provided by the ancient relativity
of the earth, the moon and the sun (as a first approximation).
Theoretically, there should exist some specific level of activity within
the organism which would have the potential to use this gravitational
substrate as a field of reference for motion and/or resonance.
Certainly our perception of time and other key informational concepts
have ben derived from the "cosmic environment" - and by this I mean
our local celestial configuration - a terrestrial earth/moon binary
system orbiting a journeying yet central sun.
Pete Brown
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